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Old 20 December 2009, 05:03 PM
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Default new rs or scond hand m5 ?

which would you go for the bmw would be the same value as top spec rs ps anyone here owm the e60 m5 tell me pro's and cons
Old 20 December 2009, 05:18 PM
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The M5 drinks ridiculous amounts of fuel it really is shocking.
The smg gearbox on them is not the best and over time it will start to annoy you. Other than that they are great cars, can't comment on the RS as I've not driven one. Out of the two i'd go for the M5 can't stand the looks on the RS.
Old 20 December 2009, 06:35 PM
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Depends what you want really.

Hot hatch or BIG Saloon

Brand new or second hand

Anything goes wrong within 3 years with the RS, it gets sorted. Anything goes wrong with the M5, it's not going to be cheap.

The RS will be best on back roads, the M5 will be better at motorways and covering big miles.

They'll both like a drink.

The M5 has had it's depreciation big hit, the RS has it to come.

Out of the 2, for me and my needs, I'd buy the RS.

Just out of interest, what sort of milage are you looking at on the M5, for the prive of an RS?
Old 20 December 2009, 06:53 PM
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anything from 40,000 miles up for between £25.000 -£30.000. i do about 5.000 miles a year in my scoob we have 2 other cars. i like this one a lot
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...easc&logcode=p

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Old 20 December 2009, 07:03 PM
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got to love the rear wheel drive though
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E60 M5 accelerates properly, but the RS doesn't. I wouldn't take the M5 in the snow without snow tyres, on a bumpy road the suspension lacks travel, and you might benefit from better brake pads. Other than that it is a hugely impressive machine.

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Old 20 December 2009, 09:32 PM
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M5 Gearbox is shocking, the new facelift gearbox in the standard 5 beats it hands down. SAT i think its called. I have it in my 535d.
I probabl would plump for the M5 though but i like my big cruisers & from the drive i had in the RS last week it reminds me of the old one a bit, all too much power going through the front wheels.
Just imo.
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SMG II in the E46 M3 and SMG III in the E60 M5 were the least of my objections to either car to be honest, I prefer them to manual, and with practice it is easy to be smooth and they make the most out of torqueless engines. But I do prefer a nice torque converter auto or dual clutch.
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Originally Posted by john banks
SMG II in the E46 M3 and SMG III in the E60 M5 were the least of my objections to either car to be honest, I prefer them to manual, and with practice it is easy to be smooth and they make the most out of torqueless engines. But I do prefer a nice torque converter auto or dual clutch.
Strangely i liked the SMG II that was in the E46 but i couldnt get on with the E60's SMG box.
Horses for courses, i would still have the M5 over the RS though
Old 20 December 2009, 09:52 PM
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No experience driving either, but I've seen a few E60 M5's being driven hard on the Nurburgring (some being the ring taxi's!) and those things are shockingly quick!

I reckon an RS would prove cheaper to run overall due to holding its value better, but then it depends if you need 4 doors and a big boot etc.
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i would like a big comfy car after the scoob but i would be keeping that as well
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The M5 is very comfortable indeed.
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M5 is very accomplished. As said before you can learn how to drive the SMG. Very quick car that defies its size. You'll be keeping up with Lambos
Old 21 December 2009, 07:48 AM
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Personally I would go for the RS, however the only reason is that if something big went wrong with the M5 I think the repair bills would cripple me, otherwise it would be the M5 everytime
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I think the RS would be way easier to live with day to day, but the M5 is the proper driver's machine as opposed to a mainstream hatch back twisted into something lairy.
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IF YOU CAN AFFORD THE fuel bills and maintenance ...M5 everytime , I just p/x my E60 M5 for a new M3 , and regrats the change !!
the smg will be better with software upgrade and you need to reset it now and then
mpg will be crap if you drive in town (11-12 mpg), but you travel in style in the M5 , great V10, quality cabin, Hi-Fi, it will be better than the Rs by a country mile...even secondhand ones .
But as mention anything major and you will need a bank loan/2nd mortage to sort it

Get one ( with bmw warranty ).....you only live once !!
Old 21 December 2009, 06:03 PM
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if your keeping the scooby id go for the M5 (shocker) if it was me id go for the RS (and i did ) as said i can't afford the 2/3k bill if anything went wrong, otherwise id be driving a 911
Old 21 December 2009, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
as said i can't afford the 2/3k bill if anything went wrong, otherwise id be driving a 911
911s are cheaper to run than a M5
Old 22 December 2009, 01:17 AM
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and an rs is cheaper to run than a 911
Old 22 December 2009, 08:03 AM
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BMW M5 seems to put down about 430bhp at the wheels.

RS4 is about 315bhp at the wheels - i.e. the Beemer has nearly 35% more power on the road....significant.
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M5.
Old 22 December 2009, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by skinters
BMW M5 seems to put down about 430bhp at the wheels.

RS4 is about 315bhp at the wheels - i.e. the Beemer has nearly 35% more power on the road....significant.
yr comparing different type of cars really
focus is a hot hatch, where the M5 is a supercar slayer with comfort thrown in ,
now if Ford made it with 450+ bhp and 4WD....then its a different story
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Originally Posted by bighead
yr comparing different type of cars really
focus is a hot hatch, where the M5 is a supercar slayer with comfort thrown in ,
now if Ford made it with 450+ bhp and 4WD....then its a different story
and it would be the price of a new M5
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