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Old 22 October 2009, 12:30 PM
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Default Mugen Civic - £38.5k!

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Civic Type R Mugen for £38,599 - Autocar.co.uk
Old 22 October 2009, 01:04 PM
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surely there's more car and kudos in a slightly used '911' ?!
Old 22 October 2009, 01:09 PM
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i agree, i think the list could be quite long for decent cars in that price bracket
Old 22 October 2009, 01:10 PM
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OMG theres so many other cars I'd shell out 40k on before a flipping chavved up (OK Mugen isn't quite that bad!) Honda Civic with only 237bhp
Old 22 October 2009, 01:10 PM
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They'll probably end up having to sell them to the Civic's principal demographic: namely those confused old dears down the bowling club!
Old 22 October 2009, 01:23 PM
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If thats the best they can come up with for 37k i wouldnt bother.

Anyone who buys one must have more money than sense
Old 22 October 2009, 01:44 PM
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I'll have two pls!

TX.

Edit - this is an awesome machine & probably only 1/2 the price of the Mugen:

http://www.carview.co.jp/magazine/ph...mages/04_l.jpg

Doubt that it's much slower either.

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Old 22 October 2009, 02:24 PM
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Its like them crazy folk who paid 40k for a chavved up impreza
Old 22 October 2009, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
Its like them crazy folk who paid 40k for a chavved up impreza
Yes - and are still willing to pay over half that 20 years on
Old 22 October 2009, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Yes - and are still willing to pay over half that 20 years on
20 years on?
Old 22 October 2009, 02:59 PM
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I like this quote:

"When we launched the Civic Type RR saloon in Japan, we sold out of all 300 units in just six minutes".

That's one every 1.2 seconds. If the new car sells like that it will be sold out in 24 seconds. You'll be stuffed if the Receptionist at your local dealer puts you on "hold"!

By the way, anyone else think it looks more like an electric iron or a shopping trolley than a nigh-on 40k car?
Old 22 October 2009, 03:03 PM
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I bet this is not getting the same review on the Honda forums! The same as the 22b is raved about on here (not by me) the Honda nuts probably struggle to see where £25k for a 10 year old impreza come from.
Old 22 October 2009, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by V5RVLTD
I bet this is not getting the same review on the Honda forums! The same as the 22b is raved about on here (not by me) the Honda nuts probably struggle to see where £25k for a 10 year old impreza come from.
You're entitled to your opinion on the (faster ) 22B of course, but you're not comparing like with like. The obvious rival to this Civic would be something like an RS Focus, which looks a whole lot better, has a whole lot more power, goes a whole lot quicker and costs a whole lot less.

I don't see what the point of producing these mere 20 Civics really is.
Old 22 October 2009, 03:34 PM
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Lol, just read back my post and what im trying to say didnt come out at all! What im trying to say is that the Honda badge followers will love such a car would not have a problem parting with 37k for one! I certainly wouldnt buy one, but 237bhp from a NA 2.0 is mighty impressive

Ps If i was spending that much on a car it would probably be on a mint tuned, r34 vspec or a M3 CSL etc etc!
Old 22 October 2009, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by V5RVLTD
I certainly wouldnt buy one, but 237bhp from a NA 2.0 is mighty impressive
Not particularly. The S2000 had that very same output from NA 2.0 when launched 10 years ago!
Old 22 October 2009, 04:11 PM
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And? Still impressive.
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Honda S2000 Edition 100 (2009) CAR review | Road Testing Reviews | Car Magazine Online

You could have picked up a last-of-the-line limited edition S2000 for 29k earlier this year.

That's a proper classic RWD sportscar with the same output/performance for 9.5k less than this old biddies' shopping trolley.

Or you could pick up an old S2000 for 6K and still enjoy that motor.
Old 22 October 2009, 05:07 PM
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It will have no torque as usual.

And torque is good.
Old 22 October 2009, 05:40 PM
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for the s2000, i just used to make sure i was in the right gear, you tend to adapt to it
Old 22 October 2009, 06:13 PM
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Good cars but wouldnt pay that for it. As said above, you gotta be in the right gear to get them to go well.
Old 22 October 2009, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo2
You're entitled to your opinion on the (faster ) 22B of course, but you're not comparing like with like. The obvious rival to this Civic would be something like an RS Focus, which looks a whole lot better, has a whole lot more power, goes a whole lot quicker and costs a whole lot less.

I don't see what the point of producing these mere 20 Civics really is.
Just read 'Car' magazine, and I think you will find that the Civic blitz's the RS and got a quicker time that the Impreza 330s round the track.

Personally, for £40k I rather have one of these:

Meridien Modena : Audi RS4 Avant - 4.2 Quattro

Trevor Jones Car Company : B.M.W. M3 Coupe 6 speed (Satellite Navigation)

ALEXANDERS PRESTIGE : BMW M5 SMG EDC NAV BLUETOOTH 19" ALLOYS FBMWS

DK Engineering : Ferrari 456 M GTA (Modificato)
Old 23 October 2009, 05:08 PM
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similar situation to the mitsubi**** evo X fq400, that's nearly 50k!!!!!

both a lot to pay for a factory tuned car that comes with a warranty!!!!
Old 23 October 2009, 05:57 PM
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So, about a grand per extra bhp, I know its not all about horsepower and I am sure its one of the best FWD hatches but 38 grand, thats mental, the car its based on wasnt as good as its predecessor, simplified suspension, heavier and slower, so does that make this as good as the previous model ?
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
I'll have two pls!

TX.

Edit - this is an awesome machine & probably only 1/2 the price of the Mugen:

http://www.carview.co.jp/magazine/ph...mages/04_l.jpg

Doubt that it's much slower either.
spot on, I have one of these and a few choice mods and a kpro will see it make more than 237 and it's a very focused drivers car, for half the price.
Old 23 October 2009, 07:20 PM
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An R26R Megane, the most focused hatch around is £22,900, a Focus RS with 300 bhp which I would imagine will eat this alive is about £26,000, honda either dont care or are very confident.
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I was reading a review about the new focus RS, and they come to the conclusion that it wasnt worth the extra £ over the ST. Still the ridiculous torque steer, bone shattering suspension and a pathetic turning circle due to the huge wheels. Does look gorgeous though. (in white )
Old 23 October 2009, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
It will have no torque as usual.

And torque is good.

torque is misunderstood, usually by diesel drivers.
Old 23 October 2009, 11:14 PM
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yeah but not everyone wants to wring every last rev out of their car to make it go fast Sorry, in this case sort of warm not fast or hot
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Originally Posted by V5RVLTD
I was reading a review about the new focus RS, and they come to the conclusion that it wasnt worth the extra £ over the ST. Still the ridiculous torque steer, bone shattering suspension and a pathetic turning circle due to the huge wheels. Does look gorgeous though. (in white )
You got the turning circle bit right the rest is BS

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38k and is only doing 6 second 0-60's?


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