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Old 12 May 2009, 05:58 AM
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Default Which MGF's had honda engines?

If any, which ones had honda engines, and for that matter of fact, which rovers in general had honda engines??
Old 12 May 2009, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by djmisio85
If any, which ones had honda engines, and for that matter of fact, which rovers in general had honda engines??
As far as I am aware none. MGF's had Rover's 'K' Series engine.
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didnt the rover coupe have the honda engine.
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AFAIK Rover's never had a complete Honda engine. The Rover used it's own cylinder head. The Rover you refer to was the 400 / 45 series that looked like the Civic from about 1996-1999. All the previous Rover 200, 214 (Honda Concerto) etc were the same, Honda engine, Rover cylinder head. All the Suspension set up was identical to the Honda though.

No, I'm no Rover guru, but had a 400 diesel of same vintage as a work car. Incidently, the Diesel engine was Rover's own, as Honda didn't make a diesel back then.
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The 620 and 600 2.0 sohc 16v engine was Honda.

The 216 Gti twin cam 16v 130bhp engine was Honda - quite fast as well!
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Originally Posted by scoobberdoo
AFAIK Rover's never had a complete Honda engine. The Rover used it's own cylinder head. The Rover you refer to was the 400 / 45 series that looked like the Civic from about 1996-1999. All the previous Rover 200, 214 (Honda Concerto) etc were the same, Honda engine, Rover cylinder head.
Ah, that would explain it Whenever people talk about rover engines, "head gasket failure" always comes up. I guess that was rovers own fault then (unless honda didnt allow them to use the same head for some reason )

Imagine what could have been, if rover used a complete honda engine Rover would have turned out completely differently. Personally, never heard of a honda engine going wrong....

Oh well... cheers for the replies guys
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The 216 GSi was also Honda engine, but don't be under an illusion that it equals reliability.

I had one, and at 112k miles the head gasket went along with the ECU and I ended up scrapping it rather than fixing it.
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
The 216 GSi was also Honda engine, but don't be under an illusion that it equals reliability.

I had one, and at 112k miles the head gasket went along with the ECU and I ended up scrapping it rather than fixing it.
Same here my 1992 216GSi (full Honda D16A6 ) blew its HG.

Wasn't really Honda's fault though, as when it was removed, it became quite evident that the coolant hadn't been changed very regularly - the head showed signs of etching from old coolant that had turned acidic, which ate gasket.

Distributor was a PITA. Went through two brand new complete units, and ended up making one good one from second hand dizzys obtained from scrap yards (the dizzy was OK, but it contained 3 sets of pick up sensors for the fueling and ignition system; of which one failure of them ***** it. Also contains the ignitor module too - also prone to failure).

Trailing arm bushes, leaky brake calipers, gearbox leaks and a bad fuel pump relay (I had to kick the centre console to get it to start ) were the final nails in the coffin; The car had to go.

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Its a funny thing tho - these mg/rover hatcbacks seem be as common/popular with the yoof as anthing you might see , i assume they must be cheap to buy
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Originally Posted by scoobberdoo
Incidently, the Diesel engine was Rover's own, as Honda didn't make a diesel back then.
They were PSU units IIRC
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Yup Peugeot/Citroen 1.9 diesel engine. As found in some LDVs

Later cars (bubble shape 200/25) switched to a perkins derived unit; basicaly the old Montego diesel just with an updated fueling and induction system and modified combustion chamber design. Some argue it was a step backwards.
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Originally Posted by Andy M3
They were PSU units IIRC
I was under that impression too. (Assume you mean french - Pug/Ren/Citroen)

I was aware of the potential problems of the Rover petrol units when I was offered this particular Diesel Rover (only bought it for price and low mileage) so I did a bit of digging on the diesel unit. My mate checked with a mechanic friend at a Rover dealer and he stated it was a Rover unit and stated it was an ok engine (2.0 TD). I must admit, it didn't "look" like a french unit either. However, the time I had it, it was totally reliable
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I too had a 600 SDI - great car really, everything else associated with ownership was bad though
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Funnily, IIRC at one point in its history, the Peugeot XUD engine that was used, had a penchant for blowing head gaskets too. (nowhere near as common as a K-series HG though)

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