My 355 v mates new M3
23 December 2008, 02:23 PM
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My 355 v mates new M3
Mate has just taken delivery of his brand new M3.
He needs to wait until it's run in a bit, but then we intend to have a bit of a drag race.
I feel that I will however be getting my **** handed to me.
On paper I have 0-100 kph in 4.7, so does he.
However we will not be doing this on paper. In the real world I have no driver aids and an 11 year old car. He has a brand new car with technology overload.
Is there any way that I have a chance?
He needs to wait until it's run in a bit, but then we intend to have a bit of a drag race.
I feel that I will however be getting my **** handed to me.
On paper I have 0-100 kph in 4.7, so does he.
However we will not be doing this on paper. In the real world I have no driver aids and an 11 year old car. He has a brand new car with technology overload.
Is there any way that I have a chance?
23 December 2008, 02:49 PM
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If he beats you, it won't be by much and at least you will look better than him in his jumped up rep-mobile.
In most cases you need 100bhp difference for any sort of 'handing on plates'
But then on an 11 year old car many things could have declined a little to add up to quite a few lost ponies... assume the worst and you might be surprised.
In most cases you need 100bhp difference for any sort of 'handing on plates'
But then on an 11 year old car many things could have declined a little to add up to quite a few lost ponies... assume the worst and you might be surprised.
23 December 2008, 04:47 PM
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If he beats you, it won't be by much and at least you will look better than him in his jumped up rep-mobile.
In most cases you need 100bhp difference for any sort of 'handing on plates'
But then on an 11 year old car many things could have declined a little to add up to quite a few lost ponies... assume the worst and you might be surprised.
In most cases you need 100bhp difference for any sort of 'handing on plates'
But then on an 11 year old car many things could have declined a little to add up to quite a few lost ponies... assume the worst and you might be surprised.
100bhp means the square root of nowt if your car is 500kgs heavier!
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Chances are you might do some damage. And for what , having a pissing contest with a mate? his car will appeal to a different group of men, Your 355 will be a classic forever and dont think for one min he will not be jealous
if you are going to have fun , do a rolling start.
01 February 2013, 08:10 AM
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M3 will win, have owned a 355 and 360 back in the day, 355 was a lovely looking car but not vastly quick, any modern performance car will leave it standing.
01 February 2013, 10:58 AM
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my friend has a phase 1 355 with a Capristo and it looks and sounds amazing...my classic wagon destroys it well into three figures with only an 18g and bolt on mods.
the M3 is going to do the same hail-hail...
the M3 is going to do the same hail-hail...
01 February 2013, 11:25 AM
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If so, and please don't take this the rong way, you will not destroy it if your mate wants to try.
The standard 355 can get to 60 in under 5s and to 100 in about 11s and tops out at 183mph.
If you have a slightly modded wagon that can 'destroy' it then I want to see that car
01 February 2013, 11:37 AM
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Are we talking a Ferrari F355?
If so, and please don't take this the rong way, you will not destroy it if your mate wants to try.
The standard 355 can get to 60 in under 5s and to 100 in about 11s and tops out at 183mph.
If you have a slightly modded wagon that can 'destroy' it then I want to see that car
If so, and please don't take this the rong way, you will not destroy it if your mate wants to try.
The standard 355 can get to 60 in under 5s and to 100 in about 11s and tops out at 183mph.
If you have a slightly modded wagon that can 'destroy' it then I want to see that car
I’ll see if he’ll join up and post if you don’t believe me, but I can assure you I’m not in the habit of spouting BS...there are enough posters on here fluent in that already
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01 February 2013, 11:46 AM
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We have both had our cars for years, pre 18g (so 280ish), his car (1995 F1 355 GTS manual box), was always quicker than mine. Post 18g (360ish), I was expecting to have the measure up to three figures but much to my surprise it kept pulling away well into three figures. This is not a one off as we have enjoyed plenty of spirited drives (at various motorsport events of course), and the result has always been the same.
I’ll see if he’ll join up and post if you don’t believe me, but I can assure you I’m not in the habit of spouting BS...there are enough posters on here fluent in that already
I’ll see if he’ll join up and post if you don’t believe me, but I can assure you I’m not in the habit of spouting BS...there are enough posters on here fluent in that already
I'm not calling you a liar as you are one of the more sensible people on here, but seriously you should not be beating him comfortably if at all. It's an old design by modern standards, but was pretty advanced in its day and is no slouch if driven to its capability.
01 February 2013, 11:57 AM
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Instead of getting him to join up suiggest he gets his Ferrari fixed
I'm not calling you a liar as you are one of the more sensible people on here, but seriously you should not be beating him comfortably if at all. It's an old design by modern standards, but was pretty advanced in its day and is no slouch if driven to its capability.
I'm not calling you a liar as you are one of the more sensible people on here, but seriously you should not be beating him comfortably if at all. It's an old design by modern standards, but was pretty advanced in its day and is no slouch if driven to its capability.
Been fixed, when we fitted the Capristo we noticed the vacuum canister that operated the 'noise' valve in the exhaust was broken...when it was fixed he had the whole engine checked out
It is a lovely car but seriously not that quick, the phase II 355s are quite a bit quicker though. Another friend has a late flappy paddle 355 and that feels much quicker. Unfortunately as mine is still WIP I've yet to have a play with him...not really a level playing field with my latest spec though
Don’t know if I like being called sensible though
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01 February 2013, 01:10 PM
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Been fixed, when we fitted the Capristo we noticed the vacuum canister that operated the 'noise' valve in the exhaust was broken...when it was fixed he had the whole engine checked out
It is a lovely car but seriously not that quick, the phase II 355s are quite a bit quicker though. Another friend has a late flappy paddle 355 and that feels much quicker. Unfortunately as mine is still WIP I've yet to have a play with him...not really a level playing field with my latest spec though
Don’t know if I like being called sensible though
It is a lovely car but seriously not that quick, the phase II 355s are quite a bit quicker though. Another friend has a late flappy paddle 355 and that feels much quicker. Unfortunately as mine is still WIP I've yet to have a play with him...not really a level playing field with my latest spec though
Don’t know if I like being called sensible though
the earlier 355's were actually quicker, the only difference was the ignition system, being 5.2 motronic on later cars (ones with airbags).
01 February 2013, 01:21 PM
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The newer car has a Tubi rather than a Capristo.
01 February 2013, 02:29 PM
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The GTS has Challenge rear engine valance and challenge springs too...the owner has never been sure if anything else has been fitted from the Challenge cars.