Ferrari Paint Quality
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Ferrari Paint Quality
Saw a stunning 599 Scalligetti in the Wilmslow Sainsbury's car park, gorgeous thing with carbon brakes, the works, had a good nosey and I was thinking how poor the paint was for such an expensive car, then my wife said the paint "Looked Rubbish", for her to notice it had to be bad !
I would have rejected the car if I had ordered it, the paint was very orange peely and didn't even look evenly applied, there was a 10 year old Toyota next to it and the paint was much better, I painted the front wings on my old black Golf GTI and the finish was better than the factory paint which was in turn better than the factory Ferrari finish.
Is this typical ?
I would have rejected the car if I had ordered it, the paint was very orange peely and didn't even look evenly applied, there was a 10 year old Toyota next to it and the paint was much better, I painted the front wings on my old black Golf GTI and the finish was better than the factory paint which was in turn better than the factory Ferrari finish.
Is this typical ?
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I believe the poor finish is caused by the lacquer which is applied as a powder and then baked on.
I recently inspected an E92 M3 and the finish was diabolical. Personally, I do not think that anyone paying a premium rate for the likes of BMW, in the expectation of a quality car should expect paint of such dire finish.
It seems a recent BMW thing. Ferrari too, perhaps?
Maybe they should be taking lessons from Toyota and Lexus and realise a perfect finish is achievable.
I recently inspected an E92 M3 and the finish was diabolical. Personally, I do not think that anyone paying a premium rate for the likes of BMW, in the expectation of a quality car should expect paint of such dire finish.
It seems a recent BMW thing. Ferrari too, perhaps?
Maybe they should be taking lessons from Toyota and Lexus and realise a perfect finish is achievable.
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Orange peal is awful on most new cars - of any value. The problem is the car is sprayed, baked, and thats it. Combined with water based and enviro-friendly paints which don't settle as well (in a bodyshop the paint has to be blown over with compressed air with a hairdryer-like air gun to get the paint to skin and cure properly )
That's what leaves a orange peal.
In a bodyshop (or hand finished, like a Bentley Arnage), after the clear coat is applied and baked. The whole car is rubbed down with fine grit wet and dry paper, then mopped over with varying grades of cutting paste to remove the high points in the paint and create a perfectly smooth finish. Its a labour intensive job.
In fact you can do it to most cars - so long as the top layer of paint is thick enough. I did my (classic) Impreza when I first bought it, so it had zero orange peal. Not many Imprezas out there like that.
That's what leaves a orange peal.
In a bodyshop (or hand finished, like a Bentley Arnage), after the clear coat is applied and baked. The whole car is rubbed down with fine grit wet and dry paper, then mopped over with varying grades of cutting paste to remove the high points in the paint and create a perfectly smooth finish. Its a labour intensive job.
In fact you can do it to most cars - so long as the top layer of paint is thick enough. I did my (classic) Impreza when I first bought it, so it had zero orange peal. Not many Imprezas out there like that.
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I would have thought doing that on a scoob would end up leaving undercoat showing the paint is that thin
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Its surpisingly thick, although it was silver - which would have a clear coat finish. Whereas the solid coloured cars of the time didn't have any clearcoat, so were more prone to chips and scratches.
Cetainly nowhere near as thin as the paint on my XR3 was. Even though it was pearl Blue (pacifica blue actually) with a clear coat. You could see the beige undercoat showing through the base paint on the roof! I tried mopping it once, once being the operative word; It went straight through the clear coat the instant the polisher touched the panel.
Cetainly nowhere near as thin as the paint on my XR3 was. Even though it was pearl Blue (pacifica blue actually) with a clear coat. You could see the beige undercoat showing through the base paint on the roof! I tried mopping it once, once being the operative word; It went straight through the clear coat the instant the polisher touched the panel.
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Our year old Civic is more orange-peely than Kerry Katona's ****. Worst paint job I've seen for a while. My 17 year old Toyota, 11 year old Nissan and 5 year old Subaru are all loads better.
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But I cannot get my head round how bad it was on a 200k Ferrari, it should be so fantastic that you get a perfect reflection back, I can now see why the detailers get work, to finish what Ferrari hasnt done.
I have done the flatting off, practiced on an old 205, very fine paper, flat it off, dry it, t-cut it and then apply polish and it looked amazing so I can see how being a bit more careful and scientific they can make a big difference but if its a car you are bothered about you really need to check how thick the paint is first, must take some bottle taking the sandpaper to a brand new Ferrari.
I have done the flatting off, practiced on an old 205, very fine paper, flat it off, dry it, t-cut it and then apply polish and it looked amazing so I can see how being a bit more careful and scientific they can make a big difference but if its a car you are bothered about you really need to check how thick the paint is first, must take some bottle taking the sandpaper to a brand new Ferrari.
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