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Old 12 February 2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Audi TT 1.8 with 360bhp?????

Is this possible?
Even with a big turbo wouldn't you have problems with the internals? have to upgrade the fueling systems, air induction, injectors, gearbox, diff etc???

I've heard someone that thinks that 360bhp (400 with a shot of nos) could be had out of a 1.8 quattro??

If he replaced the lump with a 3.2 then I could see that kind of power being made but with a 1.8????

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Old 12 February 2007, 11:48 AM
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The TT engine is different from the normal 1.8 Turbo unit in so far as it has forged internals (so i've heard)

with the right fueling and turbo 400bhp can be achieved.

in fact didn't that silly mad TT with twin engines have 800bhp? twin 400bhp units.
Old 12 February 2007, 11:51 AM
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So it has to have the internals done then?
That makes sense....

Didn't think the basic car could handle all that new power though....
Old 12 February 2007, 11:52 AM
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mtm > Products > mtm - Tuning > Audi TT Tuning


an Audi TT has forged internals as does the S3 as standard
Old 12 February 2007, 11:52 AM
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engine could probably take it


clutch however would suffer a short and squeely death
Old 12 February 2007, 11:54 AM
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I was wrong the race car had 1000bhp

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Well I best get my new beast up to par as i'm not being beaten by a hairdresses car!!

still 400 bhp through a 1.8.......just doesn't sound right...
Old 12 February 2007, 11:57 AM
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oh i dont know look at all the 400-500bhp+ 2.0 litre Scoobs smoking around.
Old 12 February 2007, 12:04 PM
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True true......

Thanks for the help
Old 12 February 2007, 12:28 PM
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Very much possible... My Octavia vRS runs 337bhp on standard internals...
Old 12 February 2007, 02:43 PM
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There are plenty of TT`s around with large BHP numbers , its quite easily acheived and reliable , I`ve driven a few. I`ve seen one with NOS aswell that takes it even higher.
Old 12 February 2007, 02:47 PM
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Well like I say, I best get my new beast up and running to make sure I **** all over him then
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My friends Mk1 VW scirrocco has a 1.8t. Was getting high 11`s last year with fwd and about 350bhp (iirc). This year he has fitted 4wd and has a bigger turbo which once remapped will be somewhere between 450-500bhp..plus 75bhp nos. 550+ bhp per tonne should be fun in a roadcar...and it still looks reasonably std.

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Old 12 February 2007, 03:30 PM
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That motor will take upto 800bhp on standard internals (according to MTM although I've not seen it done)
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Not sure about that...I thought I'd heard about the 350bhp..then 400 with nos b4 it blew. I can't imagine a std 1.8 t surviving 800bhp on std but I suppose if anyone knows MTM would know ( I suppose the question would be how long would it last tho lol)

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Old 12 February 2007, 03:40 PM
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Love the sound of the Scirocco ^^
Old 12 February 2007, 03:51 PM
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Yes it is possible. I belive that all petrol turbo Audi models have forged pistons. Im not too sure on the NA models.
Old 12 February 2007, 03:54 PM
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http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/rolling..._29.12.05.html

There are some spec's here ^^

I believe with an IHI turbo, FMIC sports cat and remap etc it is possible,.......
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
Love the sound of the Scirocco ^^
2nd down on the right. Was a while ago but was running 280bhp at the wheels so even then it wasn't shy!

Awesome GTI Store UK - Rolling Road

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Old 12 February 2007, 05:17 PM
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YouTube - badger 5 demo seat ibiza

360+ HP IHI Ibiza, 1.9 though?!?!
Old 12 February 2007, 11:40 PM
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Yep.. my car has a 1.8T Audi engine and turns out 360bhp

http://www.killerjobs.com/images/car...s/IMG_0664.jpg
Old 13 February 2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidBrown
Yep.. my car has a 1.8T Audi engine and turns out 360bhp

http://www.killerjobs.com/images/car...s/IMG_0664.jpg
Perfect combination.

Love your car

Is it road legal still? Whats the insurance like?




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All 1.8T engines have forged internals as standard I thought...
Old 13 February 2007, 08:19 PM
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I cant say I have ever heard of them having problems, even when tuned.
Old 13 February 2007, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
Is it road legal still? Whats the insurance like?
Glad you like it

Yep, fully road legal.. has done more road than track miles in my ownership so far.. that said, there aren't any creature comforts.. no rear view mirror, no heating, the metal bulkhead is deafening.. just seats, a wheel, a STACK dash.. its quite quick too Insurance is about £800 a year.

Comes in at 750kg. Prior to me owning it the car ran in the MESC series for 3 seasons and came 4th in the TunerGP last year.

Interior:

http://www.killerjobs.com/images/car...s/IMGP8662.JPG

More pics:








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Old 14 February 2007, 08:32 AM
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The internals of the 1.8T are rated to about 350bhp/350lbft before you'll bend or snap a rod.

Giving its a 150bhp based engine, that is near enough an extra 150% tolerance before failure.

All the components are forged items and its only really the rods that let it down, the crank is capable and has been proven at silly figures 600+ and the pistons from mahle are rated at 500bhp+. The weak link of the 1.8T is the rods at 350bhp.

The guy with the TT with 360bhp/75bhp nos runs uprated rods, badger bill who owns the 527bhp ibiza has had the pistons/rods/valves uprated.

The 1.8T is a very highly tunable engine especially on standard components. I dont see the subaru/mitsi engine having a 2 1/2 x mark up on their internals before failure.
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Originally Posted by Monkeybone
All 1.8T engines have forged internals as standard I thought...
Yes they do
Old 14 February 2007, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Yes they do
I thought it was only the S3/TT 210/225 K04 engine that had the uprated internals
Old 14 February 2007, 08:45 AM
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Nope, there are plenty golfs/ibizas running around on 340bhp jabbasport IHI conversions on standard components and these are 150-180bhp engines.
Old 14 February 2007, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fattb
I thought it was only the S3/TT 210/225 K04 engine that had the uprated internals
You are correct the S3/TT has forged internals the standard 150bhp 1.8t does not - as far as i am aware


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