Audi S3
17 October 2006, 01:57 PM
#1
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Audi S3
Decisions Decisions
Been looking at the A3 170 Sline TDi Quattro, and had my eye turned by the new S3
One of the reasons for changing my car is to get a better economy and more comfortable commute when I have to go down the motorway. Now the S3 is supposedly returning 31mpg combined which aint bad at all. Does anyone have experience of the VAG FSI engines and can tell me whether claimed mpg is spot on, close or whollu unachievable?
Thanks
Been looking at the A3 170 Sline TDi Quattro, and had my eye turned by the new S3
One of the reasons for changing my car is to get a better economy and more comfortable commute when I have to go down the motorway. Now the S3 is supposedly returning 31mpg combined which aint bad at all. Does anyone have experience of the VAG FSI engines and can tell me whether claimed mpg is spot on, close or whollu unachievable?
Thanks
Last edited by MattW; 17 October 2006 at 02:01 PM.
17 October 2006, 02:00 PM
#2
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 2,939
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by MattW
Decisions Decisions
Been looking at the S3 170 Sline TDi Quattro, and had my eye turned by the new S3
Been looking at the S3 170 Sline TDi Quattro, and had my eye turned by the new S3
Your not kidding - lol
S3 is a bit old now compared to the Sline. I would expect similar 'real world' performance too - unless you are referring to the not yet released new one
17 October 2006, 02:01 PM
#3
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Andy M3
Your not kidding - lol
S3 is a bit old now compared to the Sline. I would expect similar 'real world' performance too - unless you are referring to the not yet released new one
S3 is a bit old now compared to the Sline. I would expect similar 'real world' performance too - unless you are referring to the not yet released new one
New one not yet released
This baby
Audi UK > New Cars > S3
Last edited by MattW; 17 October 2006 at 02:04 PM.
17 October 2006, 02:08 PM
#4
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 2,939
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ah ok - my bad.
So you are choosing between a new A3 diesel, or S3 petrol right?
This is purely down to your budget. An S3 is a lovely car all the spec, lots of power and tuning potential. The diesel is nice and much cheaper to own over say a 3 year period. Do some sums first i would say
So you are choosing between a new A3 diesel, or S3 petrol right?
This is purely down to your budget. An S3 is a lovely car all the spec, lots of power and tuning potential. The diesel is nice and much cheaper to own over say a 3 year period. Do some sums first i would say
17 October 2006, 02:11 PM
#5
Scooby Newbie
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi Matt
i have the 2.0T FSI Quattro A4 Avant and that is returning the combined figure of 31.1 mpg without a problem - even with 'momentary' wanders above the speed limit.
It isnt as punchy as the Scoob turbo i used to have but is nice an quiet at speed and does fine on the 90miles to work (when i go in)
Mitch
i have the 2.0T FSI Quattro A4 Avant and that is returning the combined figure of 31.1 mpg without a problem - even with 'momentary' wanders above the speed limit.
It isnt as punchy as the Scoob turbo i used to have but is nice an quiet at speed and does fine on the 90miles to work (when i go in)
Mitch
17 October 2006, 02:38 PM
#6
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Andy M3
Ah ok - my bad.
So you are choosing between a new A3 diesel, or S3 petrol right?
This is purely down to your budget. An S3 is a lovely car all the spec, lots of power and tuning potential. The diesel is nice and much cheaper to own over say a 3 year period. Do some sums first i would say
So you are choosing between a new A3 diesel, or S3 petrol right?
This is purely down to your budget. An S3 is a lovely car all the spec, lots of power and tuning potential. The diesel is nice and much cheaper to own over say a 3 year period. Do some sums first i would say
I only do about 10k miles a year and get 40p a mile for my business mileage. So it won't cost me anymore, it just means I don't make as much money
However, when your expenses cheque comes in, it makes you tighter than a measly scotsman!!
17 October 2006, 02:39 PM
#7
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by mitchwh
Hi Matt
i have the 2.0T FSI Quattro A4 Avant and that is returning the combined figure of 31.1 mpg without a problem - even with 'momentary' wanders above the speed limit.
It isnt as punchy as the Scoob turbo i used to have but is nice an quiet at speed and does fine on the 90miles to work (when i go in)
Mitch
i have the 2.0T FSI Quattro A4 Avant and that is returning the combined figure of 31.1 mpg without a problem - even with 'momentary' wanders above the speed limit.
It isnt as punchy as the Scoob turbo i used to have but is nice an quiet at speed and does fine on the 90miles to work (when i go in)
Mitch
Trending Topics
17 October 2006, 02:58 PM
#8
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The new S3 will have circa 260bhp. Don't be fooled into thinking you are going to see anything better than 25mpg with a light foot. It is, after all, a 2 litre 4wd turbo. Can you think of any cars with that specification that offer good mpg
? Also don't forget to add the cost of higher insurance, road tax, servicing, parts and finance to the list price.
For what it is worth I have had a sit in the new S3. It was a bright orange one. Even in orange it didn't look that exciting. Very nice, yes, but not exciting. A bit like the Focus ST really. The interior is, however, top notch.
One final thought...have you considered a new Civic diesel? Mine has every toy under the sun, including some really unique ones, and costs thousands less than the German equivalent
.
? Also don't forget to add the cost of higher insurance, road tax, servicing, parts and finance to the list price. For what it is worth I have had a sit in the new S3. It was a bright orange one. Even in orange it didn't look that exciting. Very nice, yes, but not exciting. A bit like the Focus ST really. The interior is, however, top notch.
One final thought...have you considered a new Civic diesel? Mine has every toy under the sun, including some really unique ones, and costs thousands less than the German equivalent
.
17 October 2006, 03:19 PM
#9
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Blueblaster
The new S3 will have circa 260bhp. Don't be fooled into thinking you are going to see anything better than 25mpg with a light foot. It is, after all, a 2 litre 4wd turbo. Can you think of any cars with that specification that offer good mpg ? Also don't forget to add the cost of higher insurance, road tax, servicing, parts and finance to the list price.
For what it is worth I have had a sit in the new S3. It was a bright orange one. Even in orange it didn't look that exciting. Very nice, yes, but not exciting. A bit like the Focus ST really. The interior is, however, top notch.
One final thought...have you considered a new Civic diesel? Mine has every toy under the sun, including some really unique ones, and costs thousands less than the German equivalent .
? Also don't forget to add the cost of higher insurance, road tax, servicing, parts and finance to the list price. For what it is worth I have had a sit in the new S3. It was a bright orange one. Even in orange it didn't look that exciting. Very nice, yes, but not exciting. A bit like the Focus ST really. The interior is, however, top notch.
One final thought...have you considered a new Civic diesel? Mine has every toy under the sun, including some really unique ones, and costs thousands less than the German equivalent
.The S3 ticks the comfy place to be option though, and residuals should be good. I'm not after exciting, discrete would be nice for a while.
17 October 2006, 04:35 PM
#11
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: There is only one God - Elvis!
Posts: 8,328
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
NW Mark - a Smacs member used to see 30mpg plus from his modified Audi S3. He actually said that it was better than his old 2.0 Focus on juice
17 October 2006, 05:23 PM
#12
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 671
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My old Audi S3, REVO chipped on a motorway jaunt would easily see 35mpg, and even more if taken easy.
On my normal commute to work, only 4 miles each way in town traffic i used to get about 26-28mpg.
Mark
p.s. which was about the same as my old focus, a 1.8 zetec, although probably had my foot to the floor more often to get it to move
p.p.s and is miles better mpg wise than my new focus
On my normal commute to work, only 4 miles each way in town traffic i used to get about 26-28mpg.
Mark
p.s. which was about the same as my old focus, a 1.8 zetec, although probably had my foot to the floor more often to get it to move
p.p.s and is miles better mpg wise than my new focus
Last edited by NWMark; 17 October 2006 at 05:25 PM.
18 October 2006, 08:36 AM
#14
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: There is only one God - Elvis!
Posts: 8,328
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by NWMark
My old Audi S3, REVO chipped on a motorway jaunt would easily see 35mpg, and even more if taken easy.
On my normal commute to work, only 4 miles each way in town traffic i used to get about 26-28mpg.
Mark
p.s. which was about the same as my old focus, a 1.8 zetec, although probably had my foot to the floor more often to get it to move
p.p.s and is miles better mpg wise than my new focus
On my normal commute to work, only 4 miles each way in town traffic i used to get about 26-28mpg.
Mark
p.s. which was about the same as my old focus, a 1.8 zetec, although probably had my foot to the floor more often to get it to move
p.p.s and is miles better mpg wise than my new focus
Sorry Mark i should get my facts right first
Hows the Focus running? any mods planned?
18 October 2006, 10:29 AM
#15
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 671
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by The Chief
Sorry Mark i should get my facts right first
Hows the Focus running? any mods planned?
Hows the Focus running? any mods planned?
Car great, nicely run in now with 3500 miles on the clock, revs much more freely now. Doesnt boost as smoothly through the rev range as the Audi used to, which has the advantage of a nice shove in the back at 4000rpm but the disadvantage that its through only 2 wheels so its really easy to wheel spin ifs it wet and greasy.
Really have to be mindful to not just floor the throttle now
Although some of that is 'Bluefins' fault and not fords.
Mark
21 October 2006, 06:25 PM
#18
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Monkeybone
Does the S3 come with that flat bottomed steering wheel as standard or is it an option? looks so much better OR was it just in press shots and not available?
OR was it just in press shots and not available?
22 October 2006, 12:39 AM
#20
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Blueblaster
Just being nosy. With options, how much did the little fella set you back?
Added Bose, Front and rear armrest with load through, metallic paint, Ipod console, Elec folding mirrors, multi function steering wheel with flat bottom, automatic wipers/lights and price is under 29k. No discounts available on List or options.
The dealer tells me they have 30 allocated for 2007
Lot of cash but is well specced as standard and promises to be a quick, comfortable and relatively economical car. Looking forward to getting it.
23 October 2006, 10:38 AM
#22
Scooby Regular
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Here, There, Everywhere
Posts: 10,619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Have you not specced the RS4 seats?
Thinking about getting one next year, and although expensive, I'd have to spec the RS4 seats.
With other items, I get a list price of £30,316.85 (Gulp !!)
Thinking about getting one next year, and although expensive, I'd have to spec the RS4 seats.
With other items, I get a list price of £30,316.85 (Gulp !!)
23 October 2006, 12:35 PM
#23
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by stilover
Have you not specced the RS4 seats?
Thinking about getting one next year, and although expensive, I'd have to spec the RS4 seats.
With other items, I get a list price of £30,316.85 (Gulp !!)
Thinking about getting one next year, and although expensive, I'd have to spec the RS4 seats.
With other items, I get a list price of £30,316.85 (Gulp !!)
23 October 2006, 02:11 PM
#24
Scooby Regular
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Here, There, Everywhere
Posts: 10,619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by MattW
General opinion seems to be they are too tight
Seriously though, My old man is, while not hugely Fat, he is over weight, and he fits in them fine, even with the sport button pressed. Although I think he has to de-activate them to get out again
I don't think the S3 (RS4) seats will bolster-up, so they should be fine.
Plus, it's only money. What else are you going to do with it??
23 October 2006, 02:28 PM
#25
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by stilover
Only if your a right Fat B@stard
Seriously though, My old man is, while not hugely Fat, he is over weight, and he fits in them fine, even with the sport button pressed. Although I think he has to de-activate them to get out again
I don't think the S3 (RS4) seats will bolster-up, so they should be fine.
Plus, it's only money. What else are you going to do with it??
Seriously though, My old man is, while not hugely Fat, he is over weight, and he fits in them fine, even with the sport button pressed. Although I think he has to de-activate them to get out again
I don't think the S3 (RS4) seats will bolster-up, so they should be fine.
Plus, it's only money. What else are you going to do with it??
23 October 2006, 07:39 PM
#26
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yeah I've been nosing at these as the step dad has to change his in may and being a big kid he's looking already (never happy once he's got something, always looking for the next car!), I reckon it'd be a good choice for him.
Bar the Impreza (which he's already had) and the S3 what other 4wd "hot hatches" that are actually nippy are there? Ooh forgot the R32 as well. Say for up to 30k?
Bar the Impreza (which he's already had) and the S3 what other 4wd "hot hatches" that are actually nippy are there? Ooh forgot the R32 as well. Say for up to 30k?
23 October 2006, 08:16 PM
#27
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 542
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
MattW.........
Lots of S3 chat going on here if you interested...
Tyresmoke.Net: Viewing forum: Audi A3/S3
Cheers
PS, think I bought a Speedline alloy off you for my old Impreza
Lots of S3 chat going on here if you interested...
Tyresmoke.Net: Viewing forum: Audi A3/S3
Cheers
PS, think I bought a Speedline alloy off you for my old Impreza
23 October 2006, 10:01 PM
#28
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Matt Classic
MattW.........
Lots of S3 chat going on here if you interested...
Tyresmoke.Net: Viewing forum: Audi A3/S3
Cheers
PS, think I bought a Speedline alloy off you for my old Impreza
Lots of S3 chat going on here if you interested...
Tyresmoke.Net: Viewing forum: Audi A3/S3
Cheers
PS, think I bought a Speedline alloy off you for my old Impreza
Speedline alloy, not me, only wheels I've sold on here are Sti Golds
24 October 2006, 12:01 AM
#29
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Walking the fine line between genius and insanity
Posts: 2,394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Matt - looks like you've been thinking along the same lines as me.
I'm looking at the new S3 for next year, had 4 scoobs now so looking for a change. I guessed you wouldn't get anything off the list price, affraid you've just confirmed it.
I'm looking to add the flat bottomed steering wheel, Bose, and Sat Nav (after having the Navman nicked from the car) - not really bothered about the rest - just frightened to work out the cost.
Decided on the colour?
Gareth
I'm looking at the new S3 for next year, had 4 scoobs now so looking for a change. I guessed you wouldn't get anything off the list price, affraid you've just confirmed it.
I'm looking to add the flat bottomed steering wheel, Bose, and Sat Nav (after having the Navman nicked from the car) - not really bothered about the rest - just frightened to work out the cost.
Decided on the colour?
Gareth
24 October 2006, 07:21 AM
#30
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by GarethE
Matt - looks like you've been thinking along the same lines as me.
I'm looking at the new S3 for next year, had 4 scoobs now so looking for a change. I guessed you wouldn't get anything off the list price, affraid you've just confirmed it.
I'm looking to add the flat bottomed steering wheel, Bose, and Sat Nav (after having the Navman nicked from the car) - not really bothered about the rest - just frightened to work out the cost.
Decided on the colour?
Gareth
I'm looking at the new S3 for next year, had 4 scoobs now so looking for a change. I guessed you wouldn't get anything off the list price, affraid you've just confirmed it.
I'm looking to add the flat bottomed steering wheel, Bose, and Sat Nav (after having the Navman nicked from the car) - not really bothered about the rest - just frightened to work out the cost.
Decided on the colour?
Gareth
Changd my spec to Bose, Front and rear armrest with load through, metallic paint, Ipod console, Bluetooth phone, multi function steering wheel with flat bottom, automatic wipers/lights and lumbar support. Just over 29k
The S3 configurator is here : Audi Configurator - select model