Just drove an R33 GTR - Any tips on buying?
28 May 2006, 03:59 PM
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Just drove an R33 GTR - Any tips on buying?
Weird experience really, I went sort of hoping to not like it but I did
Main observations are that it feels quite small once you are in it. Secondly any pics ive seen of the interior make it look very nasty, but the seats are bloody good and look up to date in the flesh. From the outside, its a big old beast but looks so damn tough -esp from the front. Attention it got while I was driving was quite amusing. lots of pointing and surprised expressions. They are very rare down this way.
In terms of drive I was most impressed. No noise from the outside at all, very well made. It pulls like a train. Ive not been in a turbo car for some while, since my Sti. Its nowhere near as manic, very smooth but you do feel the second turbo wind up.
At way over 100 on the private road it felt totally effortless.
Brakes were better than the S2000 I felt, the Brembo's haul the car down well.
Handling, well it had a 2 way diff so was quite tail happy! With the power you can really get a wild slide but the gizmos seem to keep it in check.
I did try and find 6th a few times and nearly broke reverse
The 2.6 lump really is nice!
I am very tempted - anyone know what to look for on these?
MB
Main observations are that it feels quite small once you are in it. Secondly any pics ive seen of the interior make it look very nasty, but the seats are bloody good and look up to date in the flesh. From the outside, its a big old beast but looks so damn tough -esp from the front. Attention it got while I was driving was quite amusing. lots of pointing and surprised expressions. They are very rare down this way.
In terms of drive I was most impressed. No noise from the outside at all, very well made. It pulls like a train. Ive not been in a turbo car for some while, since my Sti. Its nowhere near as manic, very smooth but you do feel the second turbo wind up.
At way over 100 on the private road it felt totally effortless.
Brakes were better than the S2000 I felt, the Brembo's haul the car down well.
Handling, well it had a 2 way diff so was quite tail happy! With the power you can really get a wild slide but the gizmos seem to keep it in check.
I did try and find 6th a few times and nearly broke reverse
The 2.6 lump really is nice!
I am very tempted - anyone know what to look for on these?
MB
28 May 2006, 04:43 PM
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All the usual stuff really..
GTR specific..
Gearbox synchros, oil pressure, boost level (if it's on the std ceramic blowers shouldn't be any higher than 1bar, 1.1bar max iirc) clutch, etc etc
What I liked most about the GTR (I had the 32) was the 1st gear pull (most cars I had before and since, scoobs, gtir's, evos etc all have a useless short 1st) it pulls like hell in 1st and is nicely geared IMO. Also love 3rd gear as it seems to go on forever.
It's only after you've owned them a while you appreciate they are FAST not nippy like a scoob.
GTR specific..
Gearbox synchros, oil pressure, boost level (if it's on the std ceramic blowers shouldn't be any higher than 1bar, 1.1bar max iirc) clutch, etc etc
What I liked most about the GTR (I had the 32) was the 1st gear pull (most cars I had before and since, scoobs, gtir's, evos etc all have a useless short 1st) it pulls like hell in 1st and is nicely geared IMO. Also love 3rd gear as it seems to go on forever.
It's only after you've owned them a while you appreciate they are FAST not nippy like a scoob.
29 May 2006, 10:01 AM
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Cheers for that 
Agree on it being truly fast.
Everything on it is totally standard apart from a 1.5 way diff. He's had an indipendant report done by a specialist so that gives a little re-assurance.
Anyone else? Jawa / Chris??
MB
Agree on it being truly fast.Everything on it is totally standard apart from a 1.5 way diff. He's had an indipendant report done by a specialist so that gives a little re-assurance.
Anyone else? Jawa / Chris??
MB
29 May 2006, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Cheers for that Agree on it being truly fast.
Everything on it is totally standard apart from a 1.5 way diff. He's had an indipendant report done by a specialist so that gives a little re-assurance.
Anyone else? Jawa / Chris??
MB
Agree on it being truly fast.Everything on it is totally standard apart from a 1.5 way diff. He's had an indipendant report done by a specialist so that gives a little re-assurance.
Anyone else? Jawa / Chris??
MB
29 May 2006, 10:45 AM
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Not bored as such, just itchy feet! Ive had the S for over a year which is a record for me owning any car
So I dont feel so bad for changing this time 
Ive heard from a few people they cost a bomb to run, but its a childhood dream to own one, so I reckon I will see how I get on and just sell it if I get bored / poor etc
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29 May 2006, 06:18 PM
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Not alot to say that hasn't already mate 
Glad you enjoyed it - they truely are a superb drivers car!
They do cost a bit to run, but mainly if things go wrong which hopefully won't happen as the parts prices from Nissan are a bit OTT. However routine servicing is no worse than any other car with the performance, probably not far off my old MY99 Uk scoob. Most of the costs of my ownership were me adding bits to it!! But if you take it to Stage 1 the mpg is lucky to hit 20mpg!!!, but with near to 400 horses under your foot who cares!
Glad you enjoyed it - they truely are a superb drivers car!
They do cost a bit to run, but mainly if things go wrong which hopefully won't happen as the parts prices from Nissan are a bit OTT. However routine servicing is no worse than any other car with the performance, probably not far off my old MY99 Uk scoob. Most of the costs of my ownership were me adding bits to it!!
But if you take it to Stage 1 the mpg is lucky to hit 20mpg!!!, but with near to 400 horses under your foot who cares!
29 May 2006, 06:23 PM
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There you are
What are you driving now then? Ive been threatening to buy one for a couple of years now so I think its time
Adding bits to the S is bloody expensive - there's never anything second hand for sale! Skyline for sale bits seem a lot more sensible!
MB
What are you driving now then? Ive been threatening to buy one for a couple of years now so I think its time
Adding bits to the S is bloody expensive - there's never anything second hand for sale! Skyline for sale bits seem a lot more sensible!
MB
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
There you are
What are you driving now then? Ive been threatening to buy one for a couple of years now so I think its time
Adding bits to the S is bloody expensive - there's never anything second hand for sale! Skyline for sale bits seem a lot more sensible!
MB
What are you driving now then? Ive been threatening to buy one for a couple of years now so I think its time
Adding bits to the S is bloody expensive - there's never anything second hand for sale! Skyline for sale bits seem a lot more sensible!
MB
Indeed you have mate - so time to go out there and get a deposit down
I chopped in my GTR for an S14a 200SX which is now at Stage 1, but also have a ZX6R 
now too (two for the price of 1 lol!!!)Thats true - Mugen stuff etc is v expensive!
30 May 2006, 12:40 PM
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Mark, if you thought a standard car was good then you're in for a real treat when you get in one with a few mods.
I'd try and find a car that has at least stage one mods - downpipes, exhaust, filters, boost controller and remap. This will make a huge difference. Not seen many decent R33's around at the moment, there's 2 on the gtr forum but they want over £20K for them which is a bit silly IMHO (although these are heavily modded).
Car shouldn't be anymore expensive to run than your old scooby but be aware of the "skyline tax" which is added to most tuning parts by some dealers
If you're ever down my neck of the woods the offer of a ride in mine is still open
I've just fitted a Torque Split Controller to mine which is a fabulous bit of kit - really transforms the handling and stops the car from being quite so tail happy.
If the Rob referred to above is of the tweenie variety, don't go near his car - so bloody quick it makes mine feel like a 1 litre corsa LOL
Let me know if you want any more info.
Chris
I'd try and find a car that has at least stage one mods - downpipes, exhaust, filters, boost controller and remap. This will make a huge difference. Not seen many decent R33's around at the moment, there's 2 on the gtr forum but they want over £20K for them which is a bit silly IMHO (although these are heavily modded).
Car shouldn't be anymore expensive to run than your old scooby but be aware of the "skyline tax" which is added to most tuning parts by some dealers
If you're ever down my neck of the woods the offer of a ride in mine is still open
I've just fitted a Torque Split Controller to mine which is a fabulous bit of kit - really transforms the handling and stops the car from being quite so tail happy.
If the Rob referred to above is of the tweenie variety, don't go near his car - so bloody quick it makes mine feel like a 1 litre corsa LOL
Let me know if you want any more info.
Chris
30 May 2006, 12:49 PM
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Cheers Chris!
PM'd you on GTR too
Ive been reading up n torque split controllers - on the test drive I found the back to be quite wayward! The guy was of the opinion it had a 2 way diff but couldn't be sure. Im sure id get used to it, esp coming from the RWD S2000, but I always heard the GTR would stick to the road a bit more!
MB
PM'd you on GTR too
Ive been reading up n torque split controllers - on the test drive I found the back to be quite wayward! The guy was of the opinion it had a 2 way diff but couldn't be sure. Im sure id get used to it, esp coming from the RWD S2000, but I always heard the GTR would stick to the road a bit more!
MB
30 May 2006, 01:03 PM
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Mark, I'm having similar thoughts, but I'd like summit special - see below.
Scroll down to the Skyline GTR section - there's a garage called Global Auto which tend to keep very special cars.
http://translate.google.com/translat...l%3Den%26lr%3D
http://www.m-staff.180r.com/
Kevin.
- see below.Scroll down to the Skyline GTR section - there's a garage called Global Auto which tend to keep very special cars.
http://translate.google.com/translat...l%3Den%26lr%3D
http://www.m-staff.180r.com/
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30 May 2006, 01:07 PM
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Chris, spotted that one but its a bit over what id like to spend I think 
Hi Kevin, am I right in thinking there is one in Shetland already?
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Hi Kevin, am I right in thinking there is one in Shetland already?
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30 May 2006, 01:24 PM
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Hi Mark,
I'm Aberdeen based now so lost touch with the Shetland scene. At the last track day there was a 32 and a 33. There was a 34 but it was having an engine rebuild. The 33 was apparently around 600 bhp, never lined up against it but had some fun against a 450bhp RS4.
Now I'm mainland based I'm thinking about a change, I do fancy a 33 but it will need to be summit special.
Kevin.
I'm Aberdeen based now so lost touch with the Shetland scene. At the last track day there was a 32 and a 33. There was a 34 but it was having an engine rebuild. The 33 was apparently around 600 bhp, never lined up against it but had some fun against a 450bhp RS4.
Now I'm mainland based I'm thinking about a change, I do fancy a 33 but it will need to be summit special.
Kevin.
30 May 2006, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Chris, spotted that one but its a bit over what id like to spend I think
Hi Kevin, am I right in thinking there is one in Shetland already?
MB
Hi Kevin, am I right in thinking there is one in Shetland already?
MB
Gotta be worth an offer - you never know
Just found this and this on the gtr forum. Might be worth getting further details only if to use as ammunition when haggling for your mates one
Chris
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Mark,
I just bought one privately from the GT-R Register and so far am very impressed with it. C:\WINNT\Temp\Temporary Internet Files\Big Power 2.8 R33 GTR. - GT-R Register Bulletin Board.htm
Not too sure if that link will work because I am dumb but I would echo most of the points made above. Very expensive to run (I am getting about 15mpg plus the cost of octane booster) and oil changes every 3,000 miles. I am also getting the TSC device fitted today which should calm it down somewhat. I only recently found out that the car sits in 100% rear wheel drive mode unless the ATTESSA system detects any wheelspin under acceleration (at which time it will send torque to the fronts as necessary). Under cornering however the power remains at the back!
Would definitely recommend that you try and buy from the GT-R forum as you can ask members or previous owners for some honest feedback on your potential purchase. Oh, and get some shares in Shell! ;-)
Good luck
I just bought one privately from the GT-R Register and so far am very impressed with it. C:\WINNT\Temp\Temporary Internet Files\Big Power 2.8 R33 GTR. - GT-R Register Bulletin Board.htm
Not too sure if that link will work because I am dumb but I would echo most of the points made above. Very expensive to run (I am getting about 15mpg plus the cost of octane booster) and oil changes every 3,000 miles. I am also getting the TSC device fitted today which should calm it down somewhat. I only recently found out that the car sits in 100% rear wheel drive mode unless the ATTESSA system detects any wheelspin under acceleration (at which time it will send torque to the fronts as necessary). Under cornering however the power remains at the back!
Would definitely recommend that you try and buy from the GT-R forum as you can ask members or previous owners for some honest feedback on your potential purchase. Oh, and get some shares in Shell! ;-)
Good luck
31 May 2006, 03:06 PM
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Chris, seen those ones but not sure on them...
Kevin, the poor thing will rust up your way!
George, which device did you buy and how does it fit?
Ive struck a deal on the midnight purple one - im scared! Going to miss my Honda
MB
Kevin, the poor thing will rust up your way!
George, which device did you buy and how does it fit?
Ive struck a deal on the midnight purple one - im scared! Going to miss my Honda
MB
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Cheers both, cheered me up
I hate buying / selling cars, especially older ones! If it goes wrong, its going to cost! I also need some decent alloys for it
MB
I hate buying / selling cars, especially older ones! If it goes wrong, its going to cost! I also need some decent alloys for it
MB