What next? Scoobs so slow!!...... Miss my cossie
17 May 2006, 06:13 PM
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What next? Scoobs so slow!!...... Miss my cossie
Okay chaps,
I have a 2002 STI prodrive Type UK,
Its currently got:
Full turbo back Hayward & Scott system
TSL Group N panel filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Remap..
Its currently making 277bhp ATW @ 1.1bar, thats 322bhp @ the crank.
I miss the cossie loads cos the scoobs just not exciting enough, so where do i go from here? Ive been told to get myself a TD05 20g.
What do you guys recomend i get next and how much is it gonna cost me, Ideally id be looking for around 380bhp with good torque too.
HELP
I have a 2002 STI prodrive Type UK,
Its currently got:
Full turbo back Hayward & Scott system
TSL Group N panel filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Remap..
Its currently making 277bhp ATW @ 1.1bar, thats 322bhp @ the crank.
I miss the cossie loads cos the scoobs just not exciting enough, so where do i go from here? Ive been told to get myself a TD05 20g.
What do you guys recomend i get next and how much is it gonna cost me, Ideally id be looking for around 380bhp with good torque too.
HELP
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Originally Posted by frayz
Okay chaps,
I have a 2002 STI prodrive Type UK,
Its currently got:
Full turbo back Hayward & Scott system
TSL Group N panel filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Remap..
Its currently making 277bhp ATW @ 1.1bar, thats 322bhp @ the crank.
I miss the cossie loads cos the scoobs just not exciting enough, so where do i go from here? Ive been told to get myself a TD05 20g.
What do you guys recomend i get next and how much is it gonna cost me, Ideally id be looking for around 380bhp with good torque too.
HELP
I have a 2002 STI prodrive Type UK,
Its currently got:
Full turbo back Hayward & Scott system
TSL Group N panel filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Remap..
Its currently making 277bhp ATW @ 1.1bar, thats 322bhp @ the crank.
I miss the cossie loads cos the scoobs just not exciting enough, so where do i go from here? Ive been told to get myself a TD05 20g.
What do you guys recomend i get next and how much is it gonna cost me, Ideally id be looking for around 380bhp with good torque too.
HELP
A 322bhp scooby isn't exactly a slow car!! I think you should have a word with Andy F about a TD05 20g and supporting mods; it won't be cheap though.
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17 May 2006, 07:17 PM
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I had a word with andy f for my sti 8.
Basically advised full decat system (currently have ppp); panel filter (both of which you have) TD05 20G turbo and remap. This would have taken me to around 360-370 with similar torque.
I bought the turbo s/h for £600.00 but soon realised that the exhaust and remap (plus a set of oem ported headers) was going to cost me an additonal £1500.00 or so. In the end decided throwing another £2.5k at the car which a) I wouldn't get back and b) would make the resale slightly more difficult, would be madness. Instead opted for AST suspension set up. and sold the turbo on.
Still fancy the exhaust but may look at this when the warranty runs out.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Rob
Basically advised full decat system (currently have ppp); panel filter (both of which you have) TD05 20G turbo and remap. This would have taken me to around 360-370 with similar torque.
I bought the turbo s/h for £600.00 but soon realised that the exhaust and remap (plus a set of oem ported headers) was going to cost me an additonal £1500.00 or so. In the end decided throwing another £2.5k at the car which a) I wouldn't get back and b) would make the resale slightly more difficult, would be madness. Instead opted for AST suspension set up. and sold the turbo on.
Still fancy the exhaust but may look at this when the warranty runs out.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Rob
17 May 2006, 07:33 PM
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m8 if you have the funds go see tommy field at field motorsport they are cossy specialists will help u spend your money my even have a few that he might know that are 4 sale
17 May 2006, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Id rather buy a cos mate, its faster than the Spec c, looks better IMO and still has some comforts.
If excitement is gauged by a car that seems quick because it is a handful... but reality is not *that* quick, because the **** end is all over the place and your on the *edge* more often.... a Subaru is not for you.
If you want the excitement of being able to leather the back out, then you need a Scoob with DCCD.
If you want more power full stop.... you need to modify.
Regards,
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17 May 2006, 07:56 PM
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My Mate just bought a 95 wrx type ra .Now has a 2.5 litre conversion running about 350BHP with about 380 lbft of torque in a car that wasy hardly anything.This car is awsome without even being remapped yet.Thinking about going down this route my self.
17 May 2006, 08:06 PM
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IMO a Spec C is too expensive for what you get, ie no c/l, e/w, a/c etc etc.
I dunno Shaun, maybe i want the moon on a stick.
Steve maybe you could take me for a squirt in yours sometime if you wouldnt mind.
Sorry im coming across as a downer but the scoob just feels boring.
I dunno Shaun, maybe i want the moon on a stick.
Steve maybe you could take me for a squirt in yours sometime if you wouldnt mind.
Sorry im coming across as a downer but the scoob just feels boring.
17 May 2006, 08:13 PM
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If you had a high powered 2wd saff then most cars are going to feel abit boring compared to that! Mine was only stage 1 but it was serious grin factor drifting it...
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On the cos side I can see why you think the scoob is slower, my mate has an escort cosand to go out in it and drive it the feels faster makes the right noises (got to love the wastegate noise) but then the last time we had a bit of a blast he couldnt keep up with my p1.
I am not saying cossies are slow just a comparision between my mates and mine, the cos does feel faster just isnt always the case but its all down to what you prefer to drive
I am not saying cossies are slow just a comparision between my mates and mine, the cos does feel faster just isnt always the case but its all down to what you prefer to drive
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Originally Posted by frayz
Okay chaps,
I have a 2002 STI prodrive Type UK,
Its currently got:
Full turbo back Hayward & Scott system
TSL Group N panel filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Remap..
Its currently making 277bhp ATW @ 1.1bar, thats 322bhp @ the crank.
I miss the cossie loads cos the scoobs just not exciting enough, so where do i go from here? Ive been told to get myself a TD05 20g.
What do you guys recomend i get next and how much is it gonna cost me, Ideally id be looking for around 380bhp with good torque too.
HELP
I have a 2002 STI prodrive Type UK,
Its currently got:
Full turbo back Hayward & Scott system
TSL Group N panel filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Remap..
Its currently making 277bhp ATW @ 1.1bar, thats 322bhp @ the crank.
I miss the cossie loads cos the scoobs just not exciting enough, so where do i go from here? Ive been told to get myself a TD05 20g.
What do you guys recomend i get next and how much is it gonna cost me, Ideally id be looking for around 380bhp with good torque too.
HELP
17 May 2006, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I didn't respond to your last post either (the VBH one), because that was equally as stupid
If you look at the genuine people that replied above you, you will notice that they managed to reply with a sensible answer.
It appears as though im not posting a stupid thread... but your replying with a stupid answer.. if you dont like it.. dont reply.. simple
17 May 2006, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by StudentScooby
If you had a high powered 2wd saff then most cars are going to feel abit boring compared to that! Mine was only stage 1 but it was serious grin factor drifting it...
This is the buzz i want from my scoob
17 May 2006, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Dont reply to this one then... How is it stupid? I was asking a genuine question.. ive come from a fast exciting car to a fast boring car.
If you look at the genuine people that replied above you, you will notice that they managed to reply with a sensible answer.
It appears as though im not posting a stupid thread... but your replying with a stupid answer.. if you dont like it.. dont reply.. simple
If you look at the genuine people that replied above you, you will notice that they managed to reply with a sensible answer.
It appears as though im not posting a stupid thread... but your replying with a stupid answer.. if you dont like it.. dont reply.. simple
You're right about not responding fella, but come on SLOW how can a car with that power be called slow?
Mine got that sort of power and it still scares me
17 May 2006, 09:02 PM
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Now now.... thats not nice. I could say buy a proper Scoob and not a 95 wrx ****ter.... thats not nice either! 
Frayz,
IMHO most people that buy Spec C's dont use them for what they were intended for..... and thats to track the ****.... it's horses for courses.
Perhaps (and don't take it the wrong way) you have bought the wrong Scoob?!? I bought a UK STi after selling the RS500...... used it for 4 weeks and then bought the Spec C.
Never looked back since as it gives me everything I wanted.
Ok, my car is far from standard with extras spent on:
Brakes - £1500
Suspension - £2500
Handling Mods - £500
Engine - £2000
etc etc etc
But it murders anything I have ever owned or driven before.
It's a tough call and unfortunately until you try things you will never know.
Personally I think you need a car with DCCD, proper handling setup, good stoppers and 350-400bhp and it will leave all but a few 400-430bhp Cossies for dust.
I prepare to be shot down in flames by others.
Regards,
Shaun.
Now now.... thats not nice. I could say buy a proper Scoob and not a 95 wrx ****ter.... thats not nice either!
Frayz,
IMHO most people that buy Spec C's dont use them for what they were intended for..... and thats to track the ****.... it's horses for courses.
Perhaps (and don't take it the wrong way) you have bought the wrong Scoob?!? I bought a UK STi after selling the RS500...... used it for 4 weeks and then bought the Spec C.
Never looked back since as it gives me everything I wanted. Ok, my car is far from standard with extras spent on:
Brakes - £1500
Suspension - £2500
Handling Mods - £500
Engine - £2000
etc etc etc
But it murders anything I have ever owned or driven before.
It's a tough call and unfortunately until you try things you will never know.
Personally I think you need a car with DCCD, proper handling setup, good stoppers and 350-400bhp and it will leave all but a few 400-430bhp Cossies for dust.
I prepare to be shot down in flames by others.
Regards,
Shaun.
17 May 2006, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Maybe you just upset me because I love VBH
You're right about not responding fella, but come on SLOW how can a car with that power be called slow?
Mine got that sort of power and it still scares me
You're right about not responding fella, but come on SLOW how can a car with that power be called slow?
Mine got that sort of power and it still scares me
Im pretty sure that it will hit the 60 in the mid 4 sec bracket and it pulls clean well past 150mph... thats not slow in anyones book....
However, my last car was fast and it felt fast, exciting and fun to be in. The scoob feels slow and boring to be in. My mate has a series 2 Lotus elise and its only runing 135bhp. Next to the scoob its stupidly slow... but get in it and its so exciting to be in, it gives you the biggest grin factor.
Something the scooby isnt doing right now
17 May 2006, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
I never said its actually SLOW mate, If you read my posts i say that the car feels slow and is unexciting.
Im pretty sure that it will hit the 60 in the mid 4 sec bracket and it pulls clean well past 150mph... thats not slow in anyones book....
However, my last car was fast and it felt fast, exciting and fun to be in. The scoob feels slow and boring to be in. My mate has a series 2 Lotus elise and its only runing 135bhp. Next to the scoob its stupidly slow... but get in it and its so exciting to be in, it gives you the biggest grin factor.
Something the scooby isnt doing right now
Im pretty sure that it will hit the 60 in the mid 4 sec bracket and it pulls clean well past 150mph... thats not slow in anyones book....
However, my last car was fast and it felt fast, exciting and fun to be in. The scoob feels slow and boring to be in. My mate has a series 2 Lotus elise and its only runing 135bhp. Next to the scoob its stupidly slow... but get in it and its so exciting to be in, it gives you the biggest grin factor.
Something the scooby isnt doing right now
17 May 2006, 09:08 PM
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Shaun, thanks for offering decent advice mate. I know you can say what you say as you have been down the cossie route.
How much would i be looking at for a nice bugeye Spec C? Dont really want a blob eye as i dont like em as much.
frayz
How much would i be looking at for a nice bugeye Spec C? Dont really want a blob eye as i dont like em as much.
frayz
17 May 2006, 09:17 PM
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Frayz,
I'm not suggesting you need to get a Spec C to be honest, as these are just (I say just, but you know what I mean) a more focused version of any other JDM Twin Scroll car. You can get the same all round car by picking up a normal JDM twin scroll STi car. Even in standard trim, driving a twin scroll back to back with a UK STi is like chalk and cheese..... I couldnt believe how more responsive the twin scroll setup was until I tried one.
Of course the JDM STi's come with even more toys (if thats what your after) than the UK ones as well.
Stick 370-380bhp and 360-370lbft (not expensive to achieve) through one of these JDM babies with your diff fully open, and then tell me it's not exciting! roflol
Have a look in the For Sale section, as there are a number up for sale to give you an idea on price.
Regards,
Shaun.
I'm not suggesting you need to get a Spec C to be honest, as these are just (I say just, but you know what I mean) a more focused version of any other JDM Twin Scroll car. You can get the same all round car by picking up a normal JDM twin scroll STi car. Even in standard trim, driving a twin scroll back to back with a UK STi is like chalk and cheese..... I couldnt believe how more responsive the twin scroll setup was until I tried one.
Of course the JDM STi's come with even more toys (if thats what your after) than the UK ones as well.
Stick 370-380bhp and 360-370lbft (not expensive to achieve) through one of these JDM babies with your diff fully open, and then tell me it's not exciting! roflol
Have a look in the For Sale section, as there are a number up for sale to give you an idea on price.
Regards,
Shaun.
17 May 2006, 09:17 PM
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Frayz,
If you want excitement, take the windscreen out!!! Now that would make it feel really fast
I know what you mean, it's not the best built car but it IS built pretty well and this dappens the feeling of speed IMO, i've been round Snetterton in Steve's Spec C and it feels bl00dy quick to me! Totally different car and very track focused which make it feel very quick on the road!
If you want excitement, take the windscreen out!!! Now that would make it feel really fast
I know what you mean, it's not the best built car but it IS built pretty well and this dappens the feeling of speed IMO, i've been round Snetterton in Steve's Spec C and it feels bl00dy quick to me! Totally different car and very track focused which make it feel very quick on the road!