mattbeef

Right so ill admit i know next to nowt about the golf, as ive been lookin at the LCR and the Octavia vRS but they are a little too pricey at the moment as id like to move out within 12month so thinkin about 8k absolute max.

Whats the difference between the engines apart from the 75BHP
Been leaning towards the golf more than the older Cupra due to the golfs having lower miles and their being more choice with them.

Open to sugestions though

New_scooby_04

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Put simply mate: the Golf 1.8T isn't fit to wear the GTi badge. I wouldn't even give it a second look if you're after somethig sporty!

Oddly enought the 2.2 Astra SRi is a hoot! And should be a great second hand buy!

Ns04

SupaMiniCupa

A mate has a 1.8t Golf. Nice enough car, reckon I agree with the above. Doesn't feel THAT quick really.

Simon S3

Try

www.uk-mkivs.net for Golf Mk4 stuff.

JackClark

1.8T is a great engine, take it to Jabba Sport and chip the buggary out of it.

matchmaker

Very tweakable engine. There are some 1.8T Golf GTI's with the 180 bhp version - can be identified by having vented rear discs, IIRC. Think it's a special edition.

Simon S3

Nope, just another model bought out in the last year or so of Mk4 production.

New_scooby_04

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It's not that quick, but that's not really the problem with it. The car has no appetite for being driven enthusiastically, it's just a dull, lifeless, collection of -admitedly, very well assembled- parts. In no-way could it be called exciting, and that is the whole point of a hot hatch. VW had lost the plot with the Gti scene at this point, they were trading on past success and just using the badge as a marketing exercise.

Ns04

AudiLover

Mate get a 2002 audi A3 1.8T sport instead they come with 155bhp and chipable to around 200hp but then so is the golf.

How about a 2002 Toyota celica 190bhp instead for your money?

Cupramax

No they dont, all 1.8T sport 2wd were 150hp... where do you get your info from?

AudiLover

My mistake. Torque on the 1.8T is 155lbft and 150hp.

AudiLover

My mistake. Torque on the 1.8T is 155lbft and 150hp.

I thought the golf GTI had like 130hp and then upgraded to 180. Mistaken yet again.

Andy M3

The 2002 Anniversary model was 180hp.

Surely that is more boring than a Golf, and wrong wheel drive ?

lozgti

Mk I octavia vRS's are cheaper than Golf GTI's.Nature of the beast.Also,no one wants to steal a skoda

Standard 180bhp as opposed to golf gti's 150 (Anniversary had 180)

People do a lot of fiddling with their octavias.I love mine (swapped from an Audi A4 with a 1.8T which had 163 bhp)

Check out Briskoda.net

Kieran_Burns

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For £8K you could look at the Golf V6 4Motion... 204BHP 2.8V6 and 4 wheel drive...

I've got one.... totally debadged and it is a lovely car to drive (ESP takes all the guess work out of launches!)

mattbeef

hmm didnt even consider the 4motion

but having said that i still want somnething fun to drive, while my Mk1 Clio aint fast its always been fun to drive

Simon S3

Or 150bhp PD TDI, however, the 180bhp engine was also available in the regular GTI.

Spankathon

Again, like the 1.8T still not 'quick' but would sup loads more juice....

Hanslow

I have a 1.8T Golf and it is certainly soulless Mine is just used as a daily work hack though so does the job fine. Get around 33mpg doing an 11 mile commute each way through mainly 40mph zones (although some 30s and 60s).

I agree with Ns04, it should have been at most a GT and not a GTi (in the true spirit of things). As a car goes, it's fine, but it is heavyweight so don't expect a sprightly little number.

Another alternative is the limited run that they did of the Skoda Octavia 4x4 Saloon. Think they only did them in saloon shape for a year or so. It also has the 150bhp engine, and with some suspension mods and tuning mods can be quite a lethal weapon

matchmaker

Not a limited run - just not very common. Also available in an estate version. Easily remapped up to 215 - 220 bhp, with a lot more possible with other mods

Hanslow

I could only find 2001-2002 models in saloon version, hence why I thought it was a limited run. Obviously people are hanging on to them then

Would have had one if I could have found one that didn't have stellar miles on it At least it shows they last!

New_scooby_04

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Second that, Of all the VW group of that generation, Skoda had the best stab at producing a performance car.

Don't bother with any golf of that generation if you want to have a laugh, the 4motion is still a soulless fat git and the 4wd isn't in the same class as the scooby or Evo. The V5 golf was the only one which approached having any potential...at least it had an interesting engine that sounded ok.

Ns04

J4CKO

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I had a go of a mates 1.8 T when I had a lightly warmed over MK2 1.8 8 Valve GTI, the 1.8T felt flat and lifeless in compaison.

mattbeef

after all of this i think ive had enough reason not to get one

still keep an eye out for an octy then

golfliam

I have a Golf 1.8t and an octavia 4x4 1.8t

The Golfs interior is in a totally different league to the octavia
all this talk about other vag ko3'd 1.8t's being some how superior is complete crap

Golf does need some essential tweaks but if your getting one at the right price that shouldn't be a problem, absolute must is a remap upgraded springs dampers and one of the best things i ever did to the chassis a nuespeed rear anti roll bar

the Golf is now a 1.9 with a 350+ bhp and copes surprisely well with a few extra tweaks to the chassis on top of the above

happy to answer any other questions about the 4x4 octavia vs the golf

cheers

Andy Tang

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Having owned a TDI150 for 2 months now, I would say drive one and you will rule out the 1.8T GTI!!

The torque will win you over (or at least it did with me!)

mattbeef

hmmm i guess im going to have to go and test drive them as it dont take much to be faster than a 1.4 clio