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Old 07 March 2006, 04:55 PM
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Just a few quick questions as I fancy getting on at the start of summer as want something a little more refined than my 106GTi but still want the go-kart like handling as I drove a 172 a while ago and loved it.

Im looking for a Black or dark blue one and basically don’t want to be paying more than £9.5k

- So what year and mileage should I be looking for?
- Is there any common faults to look out for ?
- Is the warranty extendable and is it worth extending?
- Also what insurance group are they?
- Is it worth the extra £££ over a older 172 ?

Many thanks sorry for all the questions

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Old 07 March 2006, 05:06 PM
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The proper cups were only available in blue or inferno red.

Faults are dodgy exhausts and the usual Renault build quality. Mine has also had new coolant hoses and a temperature sender.

I wouldn't bother with an extended warranty as the sooner mine is out of the dealer network, the better!

I think they are IG 13 or 14.

They seem to be priced quite well as there are plenty of them about. Remember, the first owner probably didn't pay list price.

I think mine is ace but fragile and I'm glad I've got an A3 for longer trips.

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Mine will be for everyday use but surely cant be anymore fragile than my 106GTi ?
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Originally Posted by fromage
Just a few quick questions as I fancy getting on at the start of summer as want something a little more refined than my 106GTi but still want the go-kart like handling as I drove a 172 a while ago and loved it.

Im looking for a Black or dark blue one and basically don’t want to be paying more than £9.5k

- So what year and mileage should I be looking for?
- Is there any common faults to look out for ?
- Is the warranty extendable and is it worth extending?
- Also what insurance group are they?
- Is it worth the extra £££ over a older 172 ?

Many thanks sorry for all the questions
Get a 172 Cup. They offer the same performance and handling as the 182 Cup, but look better (Better blue paint IMO), and have a better interior. The 182 Cup interior is awful.
Make sure the brakes are in good nick, my mates had to change his disks twice (warped).
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Originally Posted by fromage
Just a few quick questions as I fancy getting on at the start of summer as want something a little more refined than my 106GTi but still want the go-kart like handling as I drove a 172 a while ago and loved it.

Im looking for a Black or dark blue one and basically don’t want to be paying more than £9.5k

- So what year and mileage should I be looking for?
- Is there any common faults to look out for ?
- Is the warranty extendable and is it worth extending?
- Also what insurance group are they?
- Is it worth the extra £££ over a older 172 ?

Many thanks sorry for all the questions
Forgot to say. They are Insurance group 16 I seem to remember.
Old 07 March 2006, 07:34 PM
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As big al says, the 172 cup is a belting little car ,i;ve tried my mates against my MY04 WRX and there is nothing in it!( its a pocket rocket) I would be more tempted with the 172 at a good price!!
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Originally Posted by Steve Sherwen
The proper cups were only available in blue or inferno red.


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Not on the 182. You could also order Black or Silver with both Cup packs.
Old 07 March 2006, 09:12 PM
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dodgey seal on the headlamp washers on the 02 plate cars ..... not sure about the newer ones.
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Buy a mk1 172 and get nigh on the performance of a cup (slightly less, but more than a full fat mk2), a few kilos heavier but with Air Con and nice seats

And a hell of a lot cheaper.
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Originally Posted by Chins
Not on the 182. You could also order Black or Silver with both Cup packs.
Cup packs is a different thing m8.....a 182 Cup has cloth seats, no xenons etc...not as stripped as a 172 Cup and as said I think t=you can only get them in Inferno and Racing Blue. Pretty sure they are group 17 as well.

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But you don't get ABS with a 172 Cup, which for a road car is a must.

Steve

PS Yes Group 16 insurance according to EVO. I was a bit optimistic with saying 13 or 14.
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Originally Posted by Steve Sherwen
But you don't get ABS with a 172 Cup, which for a road car is a must.

Steve

PS Yes Group 16 insurance according to EVO. I was a bit optimistic with saying 13 or 14.
Lack of ABS really dosent bother me
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Funnily enough, after driving a AWD car, it's a miracle I have survived!

One car has no ABS and the other is a RWD death trap!
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I however am one of the few people on S'net who will hold up my hands and say, "I am not a good enough driver to stop a car safely in the wet without skidding into the 3 year old boy who ran into the road."

This is the reason why I like ABS on a car.

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Whats the lift off like on these?

As on my 106GTi its so easily to control / very predictable and great for scraping off extra speed
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Originally Posted by Steve Sherwen
I however am one of the few people on S'net who will hold up my hands and say, "I am not a good enough driver to stop a car safely in the wet without skidding into the 3 year old boy who ran into the road."

This is the reason why I like ABS on a car.

Steve
Thats a fair point m8.... I found that I was more careful about when and where I give it some...maybe I`m just getting old but if it`s raining I give myself a lot more room although to be fair the brakes are fantastic with a bit of controlled braking. I know a few people who think abs makes them invincible and don`t change style in bad weather which to me makes their cars (all be it with them driving) more dangerous.

Chris
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Also I dunno if I'd bother with the 182 cup, weight saving was minimal and would be better to have the nice interior/xenons etc come resale time Just get a full fat 182 with both the cup packs.

Weight saving with a 172 cup however was worth it.

I'm the same, no matter how good a driver I think I am (not) the ABS has saved me a couple of times in dodgy situations
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We have a 182 with the Cup Suspension in Blue.

You state that you want the car for the summer, so I would suggest something similar to ours as you then have the Aircon for those nice carparks called the A12, A13, A127 and Southend.

Now the 192 is coming £9.5K should easily get you a year old car woith less than 10k miles.

If you leave the Stability and Traction control on, it is much like the EVO GSR of the hatch worrld. Take them off and you have loads of fun. Ive had ours sideways three times, messing about.

Or you can get the Cup in a similar blue, be ever so slightly quicker on the road as not to notice and get hot when the sun comes out.

IMHO the Cup/172-182 Cup Pack/172-182 standard comparison is much like the RA/TypeR/STI comparison for the classics. Once you get them all rolling, there aint that much in it over a short journey. except the comfort of the Driver.
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The 182 Cup does have air con.

It is also 0.1 sec quicker to 60 according to EVO however the seats are shockingly plain. The lack of toys is no big issue to me. It's a Renault so having less toys mean here is less to go wrong.

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Some 172 cups have climate. Although it defeats the point a bit....but the lady wants it.

I've had 2 that do.

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Originally Posted by fromage
Just a few quick questions as I fancy getting on at the start of summer as want something a little more refined than my 106GTi but still want the go-kart like handling as I drove a 172 a while ago and loved it.

Im looking for a Black or dark blue one and basically don’t want to be paying more than £9.5k

- So what year and mileage should I be looking for?
- Is there any common faults to look out for ?
- Is the warranty extendable and is it worth extending?
- Also what insurance group are they?
- Is it worth the extra £££ over a older 172 ?

Many thanks sorry for all the questions
Good choice! They CORNER well
Old 09 March 2006, 04:39 PM
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Ok will try and arrange a test drive in a 172 and 182 if they will let me due to my age then again if not sod them they miss out on a sale
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Originally Posted by fromage
Ok will try and arrange a test drive in a 172 and 182 if they will let me due to my age then again if not sod them they miss out on a sale
Test drive shouldnt be a problem, but they may insist on coming with you thats all.
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Originally Posted by fromage
Ok will try and arrange a test drive in a 172 and 182 if they will let me due to my age then again if not sod them they miss out on a sale
We'll go in the RS if you get any issues!
Old 09 March 2006, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevetas
We'll go in the RS if you get any issues!
lol thats always a plan
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i have had a 172 cup and as far as hot hatch go they are top of the league.

and beat everything in its class.

top choice of car and if i didn't have a scooby i would have another 172 cup without question.
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