Mark A

iTrader: (1)

Has anybody heard of Nick Hill or Hill performance. I understand he may be good with Renault engines. Google returns nowt.

Daz34

http://www.hillpower.co.uk/

He has a great reputation but is always difficult to get hold of by email so you are best phoning him

Mark A

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That's the one thank you

R1916v

Have heard lots of good, and some bad, about Nick.

But he does know his stuff and is always happy to help over the phone.

They built one of the first 2 litre 19s for a chap who ran the ren sports club years ago, was a cool little car

TheJesus

if your after tuning your car take it to AWT and GDI, they make the proven fastest Clio's in the country.

martynh

Take a look here, plenty of knowledgable guys here...
http://forum.cliosport.net/default.asp
What Engine is it?

davegtt

I dont recommend GDI. Personal experience tells me "monkey"

where are you based? if your looking for work to be done I can recommend people, Again it'll depends on what engine your after work to be done on though....?

Hillpower are a blast from the past. very retro tuner for the renualt, dont hear much from them now a days though..... No personal experience so no real comment from me.

Billgtt

Yep, another no no from me.

You'll probably hear more bad things said about them than good!!

TheJesus

I'm assuming you guys both drive Reno 5's? I've been up to GDI before and now know Andy and Ben pretty well and I've never had a problem with their work. Always been helpful and the results are awesome from the Clio's they have been tuning. They currently have built the fastest N/A Clio's in the country and they are not even that heavily tuned either, Craig that comes on here owns one of them (CJAF7R i think he is on here...). As with anyone i'm sure there are good and bad cases, but I can think of 1 Williams engined valver running 14.0 dead with a 99mph terminal on std inlet and internals... basically cams, chip, decat and filter to get that, which is awesome... so you guys have both had work done there then?

Scooby-Mark

another name to throw into the hat www.k-tecracing.com

davegtt

Yup, Spent a reasonable amount of money with Andy. Wasnt impressed by his knowledge/customer interface/work commitment etc....

and yup, drive a reno 5 GTT (or at least did at the time, still got 1 but not used it in a while) hoping to buy another in the coming weeks though (keep that 1 to yourself billy lol )

TheJesus

yup Ktec are okay too, bit too lexus light for my liking tho! dunno about GTT's, but if you have an F7 or F4 series engine Angel Works Technology and GDI are the only people i'd talk to. They have been doing these cars for a while and the results are awesome, if anyone has seen the yellow clio vids on here and the white one, both of those are from these people and as Craig himself said, his Clio's faster than his STi was (it's throttle bodies and running 280 custom cams)

davegtt

My personal recommendation is Iain at Europarts, top guy and very knowledgable. like I say, depends on the car your tuning though, would recommend different people per car...

btw Jesus, is 14dead on the 1/4 mile the quickest youve seen? Sure BBT have done better than that?

TheJesus

for a Clio Williams or 16v 14.0 is the quickest time on std inlet aye. BB Tuning's apparent 190+bhp Williams got whooped off my mates Williams and has never run anything decent as regards a 1/4 mile time, best car from them was their 172 turbo with 280bhp that ran a 13.2... IIRC the quickest Clio on std inlet full stop is a 13.9@99mph... not very impressive when comparing to the 5's, but NA tuning is not cheap or easy. BenR tuned the white Williams and that runs a 13.4@104 on throttle bodies and std bottom end which is the quickest NA Clio I know of in this country... (not counting NOS... which is cheating anyway imo! lol)

davegtt

lol... its no more cheating that fitting any other bolt on performance goodie...

Anyhow, not that Im a fan off them (In fact I hate them almot as much as GDI) but Prima racing have created some powerful Clios in their time.... Dont think theyve ever tried to prove owt on the SQM though

CJAF7R

There is always going to be good and bad feedback for every tuning company. Nick Hill is very good at his work, but is also expensive, as are BB and k-tec.

I've never heard anything good about Prima, ever, or LAD! Cant really say though as i've had no personal experiance with them!

R1916v

Dimma did a cossie powered clio

CJAF7R

they did, also seen a twin engined williams, a 340bhp/360lbs TT engined clio, a 2.1 16v, erm...V8 RWD that was never finished, cant think of owt else mad!

davegtt

an R5GTT engine, theyre just as powerful as any of the other lumps you just mentioned

Mark A

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Thanks for the replies. Been looking with a friend at a clio 16v for sprinting. It's got a Nick Hill engine and I wanted to call to comfirm the details.

Any of these other companies in Kent?

Mark

meganeport.net

if you've got a 172 dont bother tunin it. A mate of mine spent over 3 grand with hillpower and the car was just about the same when he got it back. Only things worth doing with a 172 are decat and an R Sport chip, unless you go TBs or turbo

TheJesus

The F4 engines seem to make good power on the RR's, but on the road i've never had a problem passing ANY MK2 Clio. I was dead even with a new 182 with 2 friends in the car and 4 wheels with tyres... 182 kid was on his own... i think I was as shocked as he was! lol

scoobfan

Prima Racing in the Nottingham area did the race build on my R19 16V

www.primaracing.com

Rob

meganeport.net

depends what scoob your in entirely, the current WRX wont touch a 172 0-60 maybe it would a be a tenth quicker or something but in gear the clios are convincingly quicker. Obviously once you start chipping or go to an STI your gonna waste any clio

The other thing with the clios is they tend to be younger drivers and maybe not as willing to drive hard (I wasnt one of those lol)

R1916v

If you've got a 172 and don't mind chucking 2-3k (! I forget how much exactly it costs) or so at it you can get it up to around 200bhp with a nice increase in mid range torque.

Involves reworked inlet manifold, SMT6, cams, exhaust etc

Lot of cash though.

meganeport.net

thats exactly what my m8 had done, it just doesnt work I think when you start fitting cams etc to that engine ot doesnt run properly. Like I say my m8 had that exact work done at hillpower, raced him in my near standard 172 and he was only in front because his chip increased his rev limiter! total waste of time he was well miffed. He sold the car shortly after and got a vx220 turbo so powers not an issue now lol. I have got rid of my 172 and got a megane 225.

I think the thing with renault tuners is they are using oldskool methods on new cars and they are not getting the results they used to do years ago on the od 5 turbos etc. Theres a company called LAD who you might have heard of, rekon 200bhp from a reworked head, a lad had one dyno'd after spending 2 grand with them and it produced less than it went in with.

The only real results people have got from 172s is by converting to throttle bodies or tubo charging. Both come in at between 4 and 6k

Frazer

There are a few 172/182 running about with 205-210 hp and 175-185 lbft running about with exhaust/de-cat/filter/headwork/inlet/cams and a remap but they are all from GDi/AWT.

P.S TheJesus you wouldn't be passing my Cup and its only got a filter/exhaust/chip. Got a modded head/inlet and cams to be fitted next though.

CJAF7R

afaik, the jesus runs 14.0 1/4 mile. not bad going that at all

TheJesus

Chip will be the main difference on your car... if it's as fast as Chris' I expect you may be right as i'm only running a 6'500 limiter... however once my car is mapped in you would see which way it went. I really not joking either, I can pan 182's and I can pull from Donny's Cup which made 148bhp at the wheels and that's with a diesel gearbox and no cams...

meganesport.net

yeah trouble with the 172 engine is you might get "good" gains over other clios but its peanuts compared to chipping a scoob or whatever and getting an instant 30bhp, one of the reasons I sold my 172 and got a 225. Should be getting a remap shortly to 260BHP and 350nm of torque, now thats tuning