VW GOLF GT TDI 150
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VW GOLF GT TDI 150
anyone here owned or own the above? i'm thinking of getting one over the 130 or 140bhp models, anyone any experience on what the 150bhp is like to own and run? what sort of fuel economy they giving? anyone???
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I'll second that, the PD130 is far smoother and has a less on/off power delivery. Performance between the two isn't that different and buy a tuning box for a couple of hundred pounds and the PD130 will give around 160bhp anyway. Go for the full remap for around £400 and the PD130 will give around 185bhp and 300lbft.
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Originally Posted by Dave uk blue mica
anyone here owned or own the above? i'm thinking of getting one over the 130 or 140bhp models, anyone any experience on what the 150bhp is like to own and run? what sort of fuel economy they giving? anyone???
Driving both, the PD130 initially feels quicker, as you are pushed back into the seat more, however the power quickly seems to tail off at higher RPM. The PD150 drives more like a Petrol, and revs much more freely at higher revs...
The other improvements:
Sports Suspension as standard (Sports Pack option on the PD130's and handle terribly without it)
Front Mount Intercooler
16" Alloys
Climate Control
Greatly strengthened bottom end
Bigger turbo and injectors
Uprated Brakes
With Revo, they are a whisker off 200 Bhp, and 400 Nm torque..
Edited to add that they are both good cars though
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Got one of these GT TDi 150's 4 months ago to replace the Scoob (Turbo MY99).
it has 2 saving graces
1. Fuel economy - my commuting run is 50:50 cross country and town to Nottingham. The fuel 'puter tells me I average 50mpg but I reckon it is closer to 47mpg. If the roads are quiet this usually drops to around 40mpg with some exuberant driving.
2. Depreciation - looking on Autotrader folks are still asking the same money that I paid 4 months ago so that looks like a bonus.
Other than that I find it is sooo BORING. Have to admit it goes well once you get it off the line it is quite punchy like the scoob for a few thousand revs then the power goes and its time for another gear. It just never feels exciting after the Subaru.
So all the benefits are cash related which I suppose is what diesels are all about .
Rich
it has 2 saving graces
1. Fuel economy - my commuting run is 50:50 cross country and town to Nottingham. The fuel 'puter tells me I average 50mpg but I reckon it is closer to 47mpg. If the roads are quiet this usually drops to around 40mpg with some exuberant driving.
2. Depreciation - looking on Autotrader folks are still asking the same money that I paid 4 months ago so that looks like a bonus.
Other than that I find it is sooo BORING. Have to admit it goes well once you get it off the line it is quite punchy like the scoob for a few thousand revs then the power goes and its time for another gear. It just never feels exciting after the Subaru.
So all the benefits are cash related which I suppose is what diesels are all about .
Rich
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I have a Revo'd PD150, giving 190bhp and 300lbft of Torque. Was always after one and never considered the 130bhp version so cant compare. That said, with 50-60mpg but scoob catching 5/6th gear acceleration (I've owned both before you start )
Doesn't handle that well, but nothing a set of coilovers and ARB's cant fix (on my shopping list)
Nice car if fuel economy but with a bit of poke is required.
Doesn't handle that well, but nothing a set of coilovers and ARB's cant fix (on my shopping list)
Nice car if fuel economy but with a bit of poke is required.
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Ive got a 150 Pd Cupra Leon, Missing the scoob and now appreciate 4wd. Weird how they seem to accelerate at the same rate in 5th and 6th as 3rd and 4th must be the torque.
No way it could ever live my scoob so I dont know why people go on about what cars they have kept up with etc with diesels (except if you have a bmw). I bought it cause it was pointless pouring money at the scoob just driving up and down the M1 each day.
Heard good things about a revo remap will get it done once i pull my finger out.
No way it could ever live my scoob so I dont know why people go on about what cars they have kept up with etc with diesels (except if you have a bmw). I bought it cause it was pointless pouring money at the scoob just driving up and down the M1 each day.
Heard good things about a revo remap will get it done once i pull my finger out.
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i have a PD150 as a company car.
A real mile eater on the A roads and M roads.
However get it on a country lane and mine bottoms out on the front struts!!
Uprated suspension would cure it though.
Build quality is very good and interiors are high quality. I average about 45 MPG.
55MPG easily achieveable on a long run.
Visit Club GTI on the net - some good info.
Hope this helps.
Roblad.
A real mile eater on the A roads and M roads.
However get it on a country lane and mine bottoms out on the front struts!!
Uprated suspension would cure it though.
Build quality is very good and interiors are high quality. I average about 45 MPG.
55MPG easily achieveable on a long run.
Visit Club GTI on the net - some good info.
Hope this helps.
Roblad.
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thanks for the info guys, the only thing that is putting me off these cars is that they've all done huge mileage for their age, an 02 plate should be on 36k or less, all the ones i've looked at are over 80k or close to 100k!!! 3 doors seem hard to find too.
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Dont be put off by mileage ,mines done 70k , Jabbasport said mine was running more power than the low mileage cars they have done , It was 169bhp standard , when they custom mapped it, it was 221bhp , 335lb ft torque , they said there works car has 250k and is still going strong , mine pulls like a train and whoops most peoples *****
I always make sure theres a bit of smoke so they know its a deisel, as it doesnt look like one , with it lowered on 19's...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ly/golfgti.jpg
The 3 doors are about , just not as many of them
I always make sure theres a bit of smoke so they know its a deisel, as it doesnt look like one , with it lowered on 19's...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ly/golfgti.jpg
The 3 doors are about , just not as many of them
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Originally Posted by Dave uk blue mica
thanks for the info guys, the only thing that is putting me off these cars is that they've all done huge mileage for their age, an 02 plate should be on 36k or less, all the ones i've looked at are over 80k or close to 100k!!! 3 doors seem hard to find too.
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Originally Posted by Dave uk blue mica
thanks for the info guys, the only thing that is putting me off these cars is that they've all done huge mileage for their age, an 02 plate should be on 36k or less, all the ones i've looked at are over 80k or close to 100k!!! 3 doors seem hard to find too.
Was looking last October for one for the wife...ended up getting a new Fabia vRS cheaper than I could find a starship mileage Golf...obviously not as nice inside, but has similar build quality and the same engine in a lighter shell
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Originally Posted by awd wrx
Dont be put off by mileage ,mines done 70k , Jabbasport said mine was running more power than the low mileage cars they have done , It was 169bhp standard , when they custom mapped it, it was 221bhp , 335lb ft torque , they said there works car has 250k and is still going strong , mine pulls like a train and whoops most peoples *****
I always make sure theres a bit of smoke so they know its a deisel, as it doesnt look like one , with it lowered on 19's...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ly/golfgti.jpg
The 3 doors are about , just not as many of them
I always make sure theres a bit of smoke so they know its a deisel, as it doesnt look like one , with it lowered on 19's...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ly/golfgti.jpg
The 3 doors are about , just not as many of them
Is your car PK02 **V ? If it is, that's my old car...
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Originally Posted by awd wrx
Dont be put off by mileage ,mines done 70k , Jabbasport said mine was running more power than the low mileage cars they have done , It was 169bhp standard , when they custom mapped it, it was 221bhp , 335lb ft torque , they said there works car has 250k and is still going strong , mine pulls like a train and whoops most peoples *****
I always make sure theres a bit of smoke so they know its a deisel, as it doesnt look like one , with it lowered on 19's...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ly/golfgti.jpg
The 3 doors are about , just not as many of them
I always make sure theres a bit of smoke so they know its a deisel, as it doesnt look like one , with it lowered on 19's...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ly/golfgti.jpg
The 3 doors are about , just not as many of them
221bhp and 335lb ft torque sounds good, whats the average mpg on that now though mate?
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My uncle has one and I drove it enthusiastically last week. Its punchy but overall its not that fast and I dont doubt my VTS would have nailed it. It particularly seems to run out of puff at 90mph which is odd for a torque oil burner. Considering you can get 330ds for around the same money (admitedly older with more miles) I'd say its a no brainer. My old mans 330d used to thump past 100mph and keep going. I'd hope/pray a revo'd 150pd would take on a new lease of life but standard there is something missing from the formulae. When I first put my foot down I thought, 'god this is pretty nippy' followed very quickly by, 'my car would just have hit vtec and come flying past'
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I can stay with a 184bhp 330d in my standard Fabia vRS. Which includes a steady push past the 100mph. I have no doubt that the 200+ version, or a chipped one will pull better but a stock 184 version is no quicker than mine beyond 100. You say it is a no brainer, and I would agree that BMW is overall a better car, and handles / stops better. However it is expensive to insure, servicing is a touch more, mpg is 10mph less on combined and it isn't a massive amount quicker than a 150PD golf.
That said, I would go for a Golf 150pd over the 130 for 1 reason. FMIC as standard, which means the engine gets a much easier time than the 130 as its inlet temps are a touch lower. In addition as has been said when chipped the 150 responds better.
Andy
That said, I would go for a Golf 150pd over the 130 for 1 reason. FMIC as standard, which means the engine gets a much easier time than the 130 as its inlet temps are a touch lower. In addition as has been said when chipped the 150 responds better.
Andy
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Andy I have to say I expected that sort of response as on paper the 184 330d and 150pd stack pretty close together. However, I still can't get away from the fact that I'm very confident my dads 184 330d would have maulled my uncles 150pd above 90mph. Perhaps its a case of a good un vs a bad un. Nothwithstanding a chipped up 218bhp 330d is going to be something of a weapon and for me rwd would close the deal
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I think you have to compare fun factor too. a straight 6 RWD with 300 lb/ft is going to be lots more entertaining than the dub stuff. But as i say for me the Skoda was a better deal than the 330d based on money. Next stop either 120d or if i can a 130i .
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
My uncle has one and I drove it enthusiastically last week. Its punchy but overall its not that fast and I dont doubt my VTS would have nailed it. It particularly seems to run out of puff at 90mph which is odd for a torque oil burner. Considering you can get 330ds for around the same money (admitedly older with more miles) I'd say its a no brainer. My old mans 330d used to thump past 100mph and keep going. I'd hope/pray a revo'd 150pd would take on a new lease of life but standard there is something missing from the formulae. When I first put my foot down I thought, 'god this is pretty nippy' followed very quickly by, 'my car would just have hit vtec and come flying past'
A superchipped TDI 150 which has less power than a REVO'd one was timed by a magazine and achieved 0-60 in 6.7secs... which considering the lack of traction is pretty good..
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Am I right in saying that the 110/115/130/150bhp TDi's are differentiated by the silver/red lettering on the tailgate?
IIRC, the petrol n/a GTi has silver letters, but the turbo GTi has a red "i", so is there a similar theme to the diesel models?
IIRC, the petrol n/a GTi has silver letters, but the turbo GTi has a red "i", so is there a similar theme to the diesel models?
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Originally Posted by talizman
Am I right in saying that the 110/115/130/150bhp TDi's are differentiated by the silver/red lettering on the tailgate?
The first TDi's were all silver and when the 110TDi came out nearly all VAG cars badged it with a red I. As a very general statement the PD130 came withe red D and I and the PD150 was all red. Across all Vag cars this has now gone to pot as cars are badged with anything. The Fabia PD100 has a red D and I but Audi's with the PD105 are now all Silver. The last lot of Passatts with the PD130 only had a red I.
Best to check the spec before you buy.
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Get an Ibiza 1.9 TDI 130 and get it Revo'd with a switchable map. Thats what I'm doing. A lot more extras than the Golf, I didnt like the Golf when I drove one and Seats are cheaper and more value for money IMO. Plus the mileage on Seats seems to be a lot lower than the Golfs advertised that I looked at.
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[/color] and the PD150 was all red.
You`re best off checking the service book/boot sticker, a 150 PD Golf will be badged "110KW Exclusive" as long as it`s a UK supplied car.
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Originally Posted by Simon S3
Hmmm, UK supplied Golf TDI 150`s should be badged GT(silver) I(red) as per a 1.8T Golf.
You`re best off checking the service book/boot sticker, a 150 PD Golf will be badged "110KW Exclusive" as long as it`s a UK supplied car.
You`re best off checking the service book/boot sticker, a 150 PD Golf will be badged "110KW Exclusive" as long as it`s a UK supplied car.
The PD150 in the Bora came badged all red and so did many Golfs. Dealers also messed around with badging, like you say only way to be sure is check the specs.
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