scott8629

A mate and I were discussing what diesel car could run on cooking oil, red diesel and heating oil with no problems.

I suggested a Pug 306TD, but I was not sure of the HDI due to its injectors may clog up.

He sugested a MK3 Golf TD.

Are there any pitfalls on running the above cars on the above fuels apart from the tax man getting a hold of you?

Scott

SPEN555

Pitfalls?

You will smell like a mobile chippy! When top gear did it they recommended IIRC using 'used' cooking oil.

When they did it though they totally drained the car of diesel and ran it on cooking oil totally and they did not say whether you can run a mix.

brickboy

It would need to be an older generation machine, one of the old 90 / 110bhp VAG TDis or a non-common rail French jobby, or one of the older Ford TDis ..... probably best to use an additive like Millers as well to give the diesel pump the lubrication it needs.

Andy M3

Funily enough i have been thinking about this, and having just done a google search i found this:

"One driver, who did not want to be named, said: "I've halved my motoring costs since I started running my diesel Subaru on cooking oil. The car runs just as well and even smells a lot better than diesel."

I didn't think subaru did a diesel?

I would get something older than above, like a non turbo 205 or something ?

scott8629

So we are saying a new Pug 306 HDI would not work, but the old diesel turbo would?

Red diesel, is this the same as normal diesel but with dye in it?

Scott

brickboy

Red diesel is just the same as "normal" pump diesel, just with the dye added which colours the exhaust tip etc.

Clett

Please refer to here:

http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/...base/index.php



40p per litre!

TurboMav

Friend of mine used vegetable oil in his Mk4 Golf SDI, stunk like a chippy too. He did look a bit of a pillock though going through Asda with a trolley full of veg oil

bluenose172

iTrader: (2)

Is it legal to use veg oil?

turboman786

Veg oil is only legal if you pay the duty on the oil, but even after its paid its still cheap. Red diesel is of course not quite so legal...

john_s

iTrader: (1)

Unless you pay the duty of course, just as you suggest for cooking oil.

John.

GC8

You MUST have a car with a Bosch fuel pump; Lucas pumps just cant cope with the high viscosity of vegetable oil. MERCEDES will run on anything.

Simon

GC8

It isnt legal to use virgin vegetable oil and pay the duty Im afraid. For a reason I dont recall the oil has to have been used, although there isnt a particulalrly strong definition for 'use'.

Currently you can register as a fuel producer (and pay duty on production at source) but there are moves afoot to prevent this; and this from a 'green transport' party, my ****!


Simon

ando

Can you suggest a cheap merc that would run on this stuff? I could look bling bling while smelling ming ming

scott8629

What fuel pump does the 306 Diesel Turbo use (not HDI)?

Scott

Reffro

Early 306 use Lucas pumps, later models use Bosch. My old 96 'N' had a bosch pump, but its easy to see which is which, as they are right in front of you when you lift the bonnet.

barrybudden

You can also run them on parafin oil, but you will end up blowing the pump.

GC8

I understand from 'Ze Germans' that any old diesel Mercedes will run on vegetable oil straight out of ASDA's car park.

Used cooking oil has to be filtered btw; if its from a chippy yo have to remove the animal fat which contaminates it, as well as the chip-bits.....

turboman786

But to pay the duty on red diesel would negate any potential saving an dmake it a completely pointless exercise, although i agree that it would be legal....but pointless....

john_s

iTrader: (1)

Yup.

John.

subevo

buy a citroen 1.4 diesel 60plus mpg can be had for 500quid or less.

ando

AX or the ZX? I think the AX are well cool but could do with the space of the ZX to compliment the small coffin like cabin of my FTO