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iTrader: (1)

A while ago, a mate and I went on a road trip from near Shrewsbury to Caernarvon and back - zig zagging up and down the Welsh A and B roads - awesome and thoroughly recommend it. Anyway, we came upon an Astra, which my mate, who was leading the way in his VX 220 Turbo promptly and efficiently overtook (sweet little bit of kit, which makes all the girls look, but bloody uncomfortable). Aforementioned Astra then got the hammer down on a very long straight and series of bends, and little old me, in my measly P1 (also a sweet little bit of kit, but seems to only make the boys look...) could just about maintain the gap behind him. I was quite devastated by this experience and have since invested in a remap and induction kit (already have straight through daddy exhaust) - and am looking to upgrade to FMIC and bigger hybrid turbo in the summer - but to my question.... which Astra's should I burn if I see them in a car park to avoid this occuring in the meantime?

(I think they have the VX220 Turbo engine fitted and have heard that such an Astra is easily tuned to 300bhp???)

f1

Depends if the Astra owner has visited Courtenay or Regal. Have seen 3.0 V6 Omega engines in Astras with V V good results.

Still only an Astra though hey ????

Cosworth427

Probably just a standard Astra GSI turbo, they can give Imprezas a run for their money.

Tidgy

Depends mate, which shape? there is a cossavaux running 389bhp.
the 2.0 turbo (on the gsi and coupe turbo)puts out 200bhp, with the right mods, upgraded turbo etc its not that hard to get high power, a mate has got a gsi running 240bhp and he hasn't upgraded the turbo or anything major, just airbox, spark plugs, exhaust and manifold i think he said.

I know courtenay do a upgraded turbo for just under a grand and i got a quote for 9k to put a 3.0 turbo 4x4 running gear pushing 350bhp. If you've ever looked in the engine bay of a astra g theres alot of room.

can you tell i own an astra? lol (only till sat though, when i get a mcrae edition)

prodrive2

what no is your mcrae. i,ve got no 73

Tidgy

174 mate, not gonna sleep tonight and tomorrow night lol, think i'm gonna create a post asking who has got them and which ones.

hades

Vauxhall have produced 240bhp out of the 2l turbo, and reckon it is good for a reliable ~300bhp if you want to go that far. Lower transmission losses etc, once you're rolling in a straight line it will be a match for many scoobs. And that's ignoring the various mental Courtenay's conversions.

Other possibility on the "series of bends" is that he (a) knew the road better than you (b) was prepared to push it nearer the limit than you, (c) was a better driver than you or (d) any combination of (a)-(c). No offence, but there have been numerous instances of fast drivers in ordinary cars slaughtering much fancier machinery when there are lots of corners involved. E.g. JohnFelstead in 2 litre imprezza sport (non turbo) beating modded turbos (with "normal level" every day drivers) on a track day, that magazine article where Phil Bennett overtook a scoob at brands hatch in a bog standard Metro 1.4 GTi, etc etc. It takes a serious power advantage or plenty of long straights for a normal mortal (I freely admit I am one of these) to counteract a truly quick driver!

Cosworth427

I'm pretty sure above 30 mph, GSI astras can match the P1 in performance.

mattstant

MODEL TESTED P1 LIST PRICE £31,495 TOP SPEED 155mph

30-70MPH 4.8sec 0-60MPH 4.7sec 60-0MPH 2.5sec MPG 19.5


from Mig web

"Chris_SRi_Turbo
OK here are the times for my mota

0-60 6.7
30-70(3rd) 7.3
30-70(thru gears) 5.2
50-70(4th) 5.9


A reputable car magazine tried to acheive the claimed 150 mph for the astra gsi and concluded that Vauxhaul had been more than economical with the truth .

the only way a standard Gsi is going to spank a P1 is by the amount of fuel stops

john banks

We've had the diesel Mondeo, now the GSI.

Own up, who's been done by an ST170?

R1916v

So the man in the P1 is lying then? Maybe he was imagining it....

Loost

asta riod ....thems mighty quick...

mattstant

I have know idea whatsoever.
Just like we have know idea what was under the astras bonnet i was just replying to the supposition that a GSI could keep up with a P1

Deano_RA

Could have been a 888 Coupe Turbo Ltd Edition job - built by the same people that used to prep the Astra Coupe BTCC cars

Matt_Turbo_2000

Haha an Astra GSi is as fast as a P1 thats the funniest thing I have heard all day. I wouldnt have an astra if you paid me no matter what was under the bonnet!

astraboy

Mines pretty rapid.
0-60 in 7.1, standing quarter in 15.6 seconds, genuine 130mph top end.
all that from a 2L 8v Mk II astra with a filter and exhaust.
Oh, and a Nitrous oxide injection kit
astraboy.

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iTrader: (1)

It was the last shape of Astra (before the one they are currently advertising). Definitely had a beefy exhaust - but that's about all the info I could give. P1 was being thrashed without mercy as I was trying to catch him up and never lost sight of him (am by no means the best driver, but not being able to catch the guy up was in no way due to over caution - or indeed braking!) the "bends" were more, "fast twists" as opposed to corners requiring me to change down the gears - little Astra was pretty impressive!

Had a full tank, and it was at the end of an 8 hour day thrashing it around Snowdon, so am sure it was down to the intercooler being a bit too hot.(ehem...!!!).

Abdabz

Hee Hee - thats quality comedy!

My bro has the limited edition SRI Turbo on a 52 plate (only 500 ever made) - and the forerunner of the GSI Turbo - Well Lane showed that it was putting out bang on 200bhp unmodded on 95Ron.
My 99 Classic (slightly modded to 240bhp) is a quicker car - no question - when we've played it might have been close(ish) but there is a marked difference...
The Astra turbo's are quality cars - Ive been shot down for it before I love it more than any ANY other hatch in its class. It would give any car a run for its money on its day - but faster than a P1 - thats just silly...

P

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To clarify, and indeed to defend my pride and joy - it's not that the Astra was faster than the P1, it's that the P1 wasn't faster than the Astra....

I've heard of 350 bhp Astra's but wasn't sure who tuned them hence this thread!

Abdabz_Bro

Lol I am "Chris_SRi_Turbo" from the above posts, glad you guys found my times on the web.

Me thinks a P1 is a "fair bit" quicker but let's not get into the "let's slag astras off" thing. It's very immature.

I guess this particular astra that this P1 came up against was modded. A "phase 3" will take it up to around 280BHP with the phase 4 on the way which will take it to over 300BHP (still Front Wheel drive) though.

HTH

Edit : Oh and hi Tidgy, I see you've moved over here now.

slim_boy_fat

Lolssss clearly it ws a 500bhp Astra with a Monaro VXR supercharged engine in the boot....

Hey here's a thought maybe the guy was just a better driver eh...

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iTrader: (1)

Am sure it was just because my intercooler was getting hot... (if I say it enough times and it will be true.....)

SJJ84

Haven't heard of 350bhp Astra's, the GSI and SRI turbo both put out about 200bhp as standard. As does the coupe turbo and the 888 coupe. They can be easily tuned to 250bhp, after that in a fwd car it isn't really that useable. I know of a bloke with a 270-280bhp coupe turbo and that has had some serious money spent on it. The new astra turbo I believe has 240bhp, and vauxhall don't say that 300bhp is reliable, they reckon 250bhp is the limit after which the transmission can't cope.

bluenose172

iTrader: (2)

I've met a wideboy in an Astra GSI in my P1, he was sitting right up my ****. I waited for the dual carriage way and handed him his ***! I know it was a GSI as I've seen it around town a lot. Wouldn't even consider wasting my petrol again.

16vmarc

i love these posts in here

Abdabz_Bro

There will be 3 Astra Turbos all based on the current Z20LET

1) De tuned 170bhp SRi-T
2) Standard 200bhp SRi-T
3) Uprated 240bhp VXR

I'm not sure about the 170bhp version but the other 2 will/do have 6 speed boxes too.

Unfortunatle I think numbers of the VXR will be Ltd.