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Old 09 September 2004, 11:09 PM
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Hello. I am thinking of changing the 996 for something a little more practical. I'd be interested to hear your views on the RS6. They seem to have depreciated a lot... The main dealers have some for £39k!

I have heard mixed things about these cars so would be grateful for any feedback/views you have.

I plan to get testdriving quite soon.
Old 09 September 2004, 11:12 PM
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Stuff that, get an RS4 for £25k and then spend another £15 on engine mods
Old 10 September 2004, 07:59 AM
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RS6 - looks great, absolutely flies. Pretty good handling too for the size and weight.
Old 10 September 2004, 08:24 AM
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I've never considered a fast factory supplied Audi *fun*. They are very capable and quick, make amazingly good A road cars, but the driving experience isn't a patch on a 'proper' sports car. To be honest you are much better off getting a standard A6 and a weekend toy in my humble opinion..if feel and feedback are important to you. If it's just a status symbol you are after though, the Audi's are great we are about to buy an A3 Sportback as a second-ish car.
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PS owned the S4 and S3, and driven an RS6..compared those to the impreza's I've owned and the 22B and C4S I have now....but it's all very subjective.
Old 10 September 2004, 09:01 AM
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Well my histroy of cars doesn't exactly shine as being the best drivers cars in the world, however i am amazed to see people's views on this car. As far as i was concerned it is an absolute monster, and for an 'out the box car' it is phenominal !

Country of origin Germany
Year of introduction 2002
Introduced at 2002 Geneva Motorshow
Numbers built N/A
Body design N/A
Weight 1840 kilo / 4056.5 lbs
Drivetrain

Engine 90º V 8
Engine Location Front , longitudinally mounted
Displacement 4.172 liter / 254.6 cu in
Valvetrain 5 valves / cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed Bosch Motronic ME 7.1.1 Fuel injection
Aspiration Twin Turbos
Gearbox Tiptronic 5 speed Automatic
Drive Quattro all wheel drive

Performance figures

Power 450 bhp / 336 KW @ 5700 rpm
Torque 560 Nm / 413 ft lbs @ 1950 rpm
BHP/Liter 108 bhp / liter
Power to weight ratio 0.24 bhp / kg
0-60 mph: 4.4 sec
0-100 mph: 10.7 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.8 sec @ 108 mph
Skidpad: .88g
Top Speed: 155 mph (limited)
Braking, 60-0 mph: 118 ft
Slalom Speed: 66.5 mph

Porsche 996 GT3

Curb Weight: 3043 lbs
Layout: Rear-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: Flat-6
Displacement: 3600 cc
Horsepower: 380 bhp @ 7400 rpm
Torque: 285 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
Redline: 8200 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.9 sec
0-100 mph: 9.1 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.1 sec @ 116 mph
Skidpad: .95g
Top Speed: 190 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 113 ft
Slalom Speed: 71.6 mph

I know the above is simply copy and pasted, but bare in mind the GT2 is a proper sports car v's a humble saloon car - doesn't look to bad from here - but i have never had the pleasure of driving one so i just go by the tech spec -

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Old 10 September 2004, 09:13 AM
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Mog on here had a well-modded RS4, which I think he's just sold - said he's going to get the Forester STi.
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If the RS6 is good enough as a daily runner for one 7 times Formula 1 World Champ then its good enough for me

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Old 10 September 2004, 10:55 AM
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Billythekid - where did you find that out mate?
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With my own eyes
Old 10 September 2004, 02:38 PM
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caution, billythekid has been stalking michael schumacher everyday.

watch out for that one
Old 10 September 2004, 02:44 PM
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1840 Kilos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Old 10 September 2004, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
1840 Kilos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Never knew Schumacher weighed that much!
Old 10 September 2004, 08:05 PM
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Now, if you were considering the RS6 Plus, that would be a whole different ballgame.

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Old 11 September 2004, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam M
caution, billythekid has been stalking michael schumacher everyday.

watch out for that one
LOL!
Old 11 September 2004, 11:23 PM
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I agree 100% with SAXO BOY. Go to MTM website they have and RS4 tuned to 500BHP I think anyway it unbelievable called 'Blue Thunder'

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Old 12 September 2004, 07:29 AM
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Get yourself across to http://www.rs246.com and ask the question of some RS6 (standard and tuned) owners.
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I sold my modded RS4 recently to buy a Type 25 and a Forester STi for the Mrs only because I wanted something a bit more nimble on B roads. The RS4 is a better car when modded than the RS6 IMHO as the 6 is alot bigger and wallows. A good RS4 is going to cost you £35k plus another £10k for 460bhp, suspension and brakes, remember also that the RS4 was limited to about 4000 cars worldwide and about 400 were brought into the uk, the RS6 is "just" a production line car.

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Old 12 September 2004, 04:16 PM
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Mog, what sort of performance do you get from an RS4 with 460bhp? I'm particularly interested in 0-100mph time and 0-125 as well. The standard car is 17s to 125mph
Old 12 September 2004, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
Mog, what sort of performance do you get from an RS4 with 460bhp? I'm particularly interested in 0-100mph time and 0-125 as well. The standard car is 17s to 125mph
Its probably best to ask on RS246,com as I never timed my car, also various chip manufacturers will have quite different times.

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Old 12 September 2004, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
Mog, what sort of performance do you get from an RS4 with 460bhp? I'm particularly interested in 0-100mph time and 0-125 as well. The standard car is 17s to 125mph

Timed on a wet day at bruntingphorpe with vbox equipment at PVW shootout
an RS4 with 450 bhp
0-60 5 seconds with 0-100 in 12.26 seconds
mine also on a wet day for PVW 0-60 6.55 0-100 13.3
looks like i would be catching up after getting traction :-)
Old 12 September 2004, 05:46 PM
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The Type 25 I'm pretty sure is 0-60..3.9 seconds (autocar) and 0-100..10.1 seconds (evo mag).

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Old 12 September 2004, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mog
The Type 25 I'm pretty sure is 0-60..3.9 seconds (autocar) and 0-100..10.1 seconds (evo mag).

Mog
That 0-60 was only a prediction, they didn't actually record a time
Old 12 September 2004, 06:15 PM
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A couple of pictures of my previous 2 RS4's

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/DCP_0079.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/DCP_0035.jpg

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3.9 seems a strange accurate figure to guess at if not quite right!!!!!!!!
Old 12 September 2004, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mog
A couple of pictures of my previous 2 RS4's

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/DCP_0079.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/DCP_0035.jpg

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3.9 seems a strange accurate figure to guess at if not quite right!!!!!!!!
i agree seems kind of daft but i re read the article - i think they were just trying to crab attention for the article by putting that in the specs box

dialynx's quattro does it bwteen 2.9 and 3.5 and that has around 500 bhp
so 3.9 seems a bit optimistic to me for 350 bhp - maybe a one off perfect launch with hardly any fuel in the tank
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I think the time difference between the RS4s times and the T25 maybe down to the RS4 being owned by a someone who has to pay to fix it if it blows up. If memory serves there was a Nogaro RS4 at the VMax meetings with 550BHP which was a bit faster than that (apparently the Nitrous wasn't working on the day !).
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RS4 with 450 bhp
0-60 5 seconds with 0-100 in 12.26 seconds
mine also on a wet day for PVW 0-60 6.55 0-100 13.3
looks like i would be catching up after getting traction :-)
With all due respect to the no doubt rediculously fast car, that 0-100 isn't very quick, is this purely down to the weather ??? or are the cars geared in such a way that a standing start sprint doesn't reveal it's true potential ?!?!?

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Old 13 September 2004, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy M3
With all due respect to the no doubt rediculously fast car, that 0-100 isn't very quick, is this purely down to the weather ??? or are the cars geared in such a way that a standing start sprint doesn't reveal it's true potential ?!?!?
do you mean fantasy "very quick" or recorded on proper timing equipment quick ?

the figures look about right for a standard RS4 but it was wet according to PVW and its at Bruntingphorpe which is a crappy surface and slightly uphill
maybe he only had one go, maybe he had over 1/2 a tank of fuel
A dialynx TT with an S4 engine running over 450 bhp at the same shootout
posted 4.34 and 10.83
when i did it for PVW is was wet i only had 2 goes, i had over half a tank of fuel. both my launchs were crap with my racelogic traction control cutting in too agressively but the 60-100 time isn't too far away from what it should be with over 300 bhp comparing it to figures i've seen in EVO and autocars 0-100 challenge

quicker than a new M3 according to the figures in Evo :-)

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I have to be honest I kind of hoped that a 450bhp RS4 would be hitting 100mph in 10s dead or better.
Old 13 September 2004, 05:45 PM
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996 Turbo is slightly lighter and less powerful than a 450 BHP RS4, fairly similar power to weight and is doing 100 in 10.
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