Clive the Brave

Hi Guys and girlies'

Just been for my first little blast in a Nobel, really puts my WR1 in it's place.

Any one else had the Nobel Experiance ?

Clive

corradoboy

I think former US president Jimmy Carter won one in 2002. Not for driving a car though.

Do you mean Noble ?

rb5037

Not been in one but seen one GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

God dam fast as $%&*

penfold118

LOL corradoboy

juan

Saw my first one on the road yesterday - Awesome looking

RichWalk

My mate test drove one at Paul Matty Sportscars- he loved it and said straight line speed was superb and the brake's were incredible- he's sticking with his Lotus Go-Cart for now though.

Clive the Brave

Noble, sorry.............all to excited still.

My friend and a couple of mates have put together a track day school
X-factor, might join just need to go over the business plan before I dish
out the cash. But so far things are looking very sweet.

check out:
Prices start from £299 but check out the website............ www.x-factor-uk.com

What do you guys out there in scooby land think

Iwan

I think you're a flash git!

ian_sadler

how much new?

Clive the Brave

50k new, the M40 is 60k which could be on order in the coming month.

I'll have to sell the girlfriend if I'm to buy in to X-factor.
NO one tell her, OK,,, I'm going to tell her she's going on holiday, one way...lol....

billythekid

A friend of mine makes the engines for the Noble M12. Its a nice unit and he has not cut any corners, cant comment on the chassis.

I have seen loads on track days, usually being driven very slowly by their worried owners - but have seen a few in the hands of instructors and they are fairly well set up for track work.

Duck_Pond

Not really in the same price bracket as an Impreza, and from what I have heard, they're in a different league in terms of performance too. The new M400 looks even more insane, with a 3.5sec race to 60 and 185mph top end. Hmm - that's top-of-the-range TVR performance.

CraigH

Is that John Noble in Chesterfield?

skiddus_markus

I think Nobles build the engines.

corradoboy

I though Ford built the engine. V6 from Mundane-o, but then agian, someone has to strap on a bl00dy great turbo and tempt some power out of it I suppose

Mark_BT52

3.0 V6 is from the Maverick, the older 2.5 was from the Mondeo.

Personally if I'm going to spend that sort of money, I'd want a bespoke engine rather than something designed for average Fords with a turbo added. I'd also want some kind of boot (Noble has none at all), and a better interior

Tuscan S is £10k cheaper than the new one, faster than the old one, has a bepoke engine, no turbo lag, and a decent boot.

I know the Noble isn't really a grand tourer, but then it isn't really a brilliant track car either. They struggle against Exiges on track, suffer oil starvation unless you get the baffled sump which is an option since Lee Noble insists it isn't a track car (ok it's standard on the M400).
Always been a bit confused as to what it is supposed to be. As an out and out track car it doesn't work and you can't take it on a journey of any length since you can't take luggage....

Mark

screechmr2

noble basically rip the ford unit apart and rebuild it with 2 turbos, it's barely even the ford engine when they finish with it

class_A

I'm just curious (not flaming) but what's wrong with having a Ford based engine exactly (apart from the badge if you're into that sort of thing)?

Cheers!
Alex

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

"Personally if I'm going to spend that sort of money, I'd want a bespoke engine rather than something designed for average Fords with a turbo added"

Go and buy a TVR, the only performance car where a complete engine is required at every service interval, sometimes before, unless you can cope with the shame of one with a third hand Buick V8 ?

Bespoke engines dont really exist these days, Roll Royce has a BMW unit, Bentley a VW unit, Lotus used Rover and now Toyota and dont make their own anymore since the Esprit finished and Morgan run BMW engines nowadays, I think only Aston Martin do their own units these days and I am not sure how much Ford involvement there are in these.

I think this is because the development cost so much and the fact that a large manufacturer can produce a better unit (i.e reliable) than a small concern like TVR, dont get me wrong I love TVR's but I wouldnt buy one unless the motor could be guaranteed to last longer than the air freshener.

I suppose this is why people buy Porsches ?

carl

Yes, I've had the Nobel experience. You can certainly "have a blast" with it
[Nobel Explosif is an explosives manufacturer. Alfred Nobel -- sponsor of the prizes -- invented dynamite]

Type R

Honda build there own engines too

mattstant

Apparently He set up the Nobel prize after reading his very premature obituary while on a visit to Paris(the papers had mistaken him for his brother).
And after seeing how he would be remembered he didnt like it and decided to partake in what is probably the most sucessful case of
PR spin ever devised.

I have driven past his factory in North Wales many times

billythekid

Sorry for the delay - yes it is John Noble - although I have not seen John for a bit as he has retired now.

class_A

The Aston Martin V12 as used in the DB9 and Vanquish is (very simply) 2 Ford Duratec V6's stuck together

Mark, surely it is who specifies and builds the final finished engine, rather than who cast the block originally, which adds the sparkle?

Phil M

Maybe if the car had a more bespoke engine it'd be even more expensive! Really fast, my neighbough has one and has promised me a go. will go knockin now.

Sticky Stuff

I've driven an Exige and can honestly say that I was well gutted. My old standard UK turbo Impreza would have had it in a straight line, (with the exception of a standing start) and I'd put money on the Evo against one on a track. (it'd certainly leave it on the straights) Very disappointed. Not enough power, and very hard work, physically nackered after 30 minutes on the road (okay, I'm not fit enough). Noisy. Uncomfortable.

Just my opinion though

CrisPDuk

I personally can't see what would be wrong with a using ford based engine, as the constructors/financers of the two most successful competition engines EVER (DFV/DFR & BDA/BDG), I would like to think that their engine people new a more than a little about something or other



BTW, before anyone says, yes I know COStin & DuckWORTH were behind them, along with Brian Hart

MarfGTti

Sounds pretty bespoke to me.