Tiggs

i need one to lug all the kids about and makes everyone moan about how i shouldnt have one unless im a farmer.

anyone had (thats had as in owned not had as in have an opinion thats based on nothing at all) a:

disco, m class, shogun, land cruiser?

T

Dracoro

Why don't you get a people carrier? There's usually more space and better packaged. Grand Espace or suchlike?

Tiggs

they look boring

Dracoro

well, look here for a list of most of what's on the market. It shows specs, reviews, things to look out for etc.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/ca...aspx?family=fx

Tiggs

yep, done all that.

prob gonna get a shogun but wondered if anyone had one of the above.

MarkCSC

There is a guy in the office who has a top spec V8 Disco with active suspension. Really nice car, very comfy and well put together and fairly quick. He has had 4 Discos and this one has had no problems.

If you wnat to know any specifics I'll ask him.

Mark

Oh and 20-15 mpg before you ask

Tiggs

hmmm, i have 540 now so wanted to go diesel....prob with the disco is its only a 2.5 so a bit slow- at least the shogun is a 3.2.

might have to think about a v8!

ProperCharlie

Haven't owned a disco but my (work) partner has one and i've driven it quite a bit. it's a dog imo. it's a pre TD5 model, so i suppose the newer ones may be better. build quality on this one is reminiscent of a cornflakes packet...

Tiggs

new ones are diff class.

chinnybloke

Hi Tiggs,

I know they are not 7 seaters but how many kids have you got! I've just bought an XTrail 2.2 diesel SE+. I can't believe how much I like it. I sold a 2000 facelift M5 for £29k and bought this for 15,995 privately. Best car purchase move I've made I reckon.


Chinnybloke

Danny B

Do a search on AutoTrader for a Mitubsihi Shogun, include the keyword "Animal".
Private sales only, there is a beauty for £18,495 wide screen DVD the lot.

Tiggs

chinnybloke,

i need room for 3 kids. 1 in a baby seat, 1 on a booster and 1 loose!

theres NO WAY they can sit comfy in the back of a standard car.

That animal is cheap...must be a manual petrol version? (not a nice combo)

druddle

From the thread title i thought you wanted seven Seat 4x4s for the school run. Thought that was a bit excessive......

Wild Mark

not much choice, 4x4 with 7 seats, what about the Volvo XC90?

Mark

CHALKIE

Hi, I went down this road about a year ago, I think the only options are the Disco or the XC90. I opted for the Disco because of the ruggedness and the option of the complete rubber mat set that covers pretty much the whole floor and boot area. It definately wont win any trophys for perfomance but you will like it. I went for the ES TDI auto and got a dealer reg'd one for £27000.00. The after-sales is also second to none.

Stuart J

Be Original, Get a Landrover County, Goes anywhere, Tons of Fun, Great for the kids, treat it as bad as you want & you wont be one of those "Trendy" 4x4 owners & they are at a push a 12 Seater.
With the Discoveries unless the build quality has dramatically improved in the last 3 years they are a liability.
Weve used various 4x4's for Balloooning & used them hard. The County is a good all round tool, Best of the trendies IMO is the Isuzu Trooper. The only down side to the County is its a pain on long runs & by long I mean several hundred miles.

gregjd

E Class Merc or Audi A6 Estates? You can get a 3rd row of seats for both..

Tiggs

3rd row is not a proper seat...its a bench in the boot- no way!

zilch

Tiggs, wife is on 2nd disco, had a TDI up to a year ago, and got a TD5 with ACE (cornering control, which means its good in the twisties ) November 2002, It feels reasonably quick for a 2.5 ton brick compared to the TDI and against the shogun sport (challenger) which we test drove (which felt more like a truck/pickup,which it is based on)we felt the TD5 was a alround better package.

Thanks

Jim

Franx

You can buy a 7-seat conversion for a range rover. Rear two are backwards facing, if you don't mind that.

Neil Smalley

Tiggs

What about a forrester. They'll fit 3 kids in the back, plus they are the most fun by 4 you can get this side of a cayanne.

Tiggs

still cant get 2 kids seat and a third kid in comfy...i need 2 rows of passenger seats.

what would be cool would be a cosworth galaxy with AWD!

T

jonc

What about a Vauxhall Zafira GSI turbo. Compact 7 seater MPV. 190 odd bhp, 0-60 under 8 secs.

http://www.topgear.com/servlet/tg?DEST=/content/jsp/individualRoadTest.jsp&EVENT=1010&MAKE=Vauxhall:E7 &MODEL=Zafira:C8&roadTestNumber=02.html

D Noble

tiggs,
do NOT get a td5, my partner at work is on his second(he should have known better,but decided to give the facelifted one a second chance) both were never out of the garage,the first one with gearbox problems and his current one which is little over 6 weeks old,has had a new clutch/windscreen and center console, it is painfully slow especially if you back off the gas then want to speed up again esp at motorway speeds.

i have chucked in my scoob and am now waiting for an
m class,270cdi, which to be honest is the first car to be able to tear me away from subaru, it drves like a car and has loads of torque, plus resale values are pretty good if you care about such things(my mate got 15k for the td5 ES after 3 years,which is 33k new)
BTW mine has the amg kit on it so will look the dogs...

hope this helps
dave

zilch

Dave, wife never had a problem with either of our Discos's over the last 5 years in fact both my scoobs have been more unreliable and back to the dealers, no exagaration, perhaps some people are destined to get the dross of the output just bad luck i suppose.

Find the TD5 is quite an elegant cruiser at motorway + speeds, and when you do have to reapply the pressure after slowing down, its really not all that bad. Horses for courses i suppose

Cheers

Jim

Crapaud62

Go for Shogun/Pajero

I've got a 7 seater turbo diesel Pajero. Its a true 7 seater with proper forward facing seats in the back with correct inertia belts.

Kids love it especially as its got big wheels and pimp tint windows. Full spec with leather, climate (with separate controls for rear), heated seats, good cd player and loads of other bells and whistles.

Dave Thornton

Tiggs

You haven't said how much money you want to spend, but I have a nice Discovery which I'm about to sell which you might be interested in. And I live very near to you, in fact I'll be in Henley this Saturday ...

You can contact me during the day on: davet@johnlewis.com

[Edited by Dave Thornton - 12/11/2003 2:19:31 PM]

chinnybloke

Dave...if you haven't already bought it, I know two people who had ML's and they both thought they were cr*p. Poor build quality for Merc in both and poor dealer service too. To add to that, my old man has a new shape E270CDI and he's getting rid of it as soon as Merc get the part in (sometime in Jan) to fix it! His has already had new front seats, OS upgrade, sat-nav upgrade and now his keyless go doesn't work.

Boro

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