If you were building a cheap 1/4 mile car, what base car would you use?
14 October 2003, 02:38 PM
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A guy at work is looking for a new car!
His cousin has a Nissan Pulsar GTI-R running about 280bhp and runs quarter mile at Santa Pod in 13 seconds dead.
Different turbo, 2.1 litre engine, FMIC, you get the idea!
Anyway he has about £6k to spend on a base car to try and show up his cousin!!! (More money can be spent on mods later!!
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The only stipulation is that the car will also be a daily runner and needs to be relible for his 40 miles a day to work! It will be his ONLY car!
Track cars are fine, but he really wants to 'Live his life 1/4 miles at a time'!!!
[Edited by Andy Tang - 10/14/2003 3:48:33 PM]
His cousin has a Nissan Pulsar GTI-R running about 280bhp and runs quarter mile at Santa Pod in 13 seconds dead.
Different turbo, 2.1 litre engine, FMIC, you get the idea!
Anyway he has about £6k to spend on a base car to try and show up his cousin!!! (More money can be spent on mods later!!
)The only stipulation is that the car will also be a daily runner and needs to be relible for his 40 miles a day to work! It will be his ONLY car!
Track cars are fine, but he really wants to 'Live his life 1/4 miles at a time'!!!
[Edited by Andy Tang - 10/14/2003 3:48:33 PM]
14 October 2003, 02:42 PM
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My idea is to get a late Nissan 200SX (14a) for about £6k!
All it would need is a FMIC, boost controller and some skillful clutch control for the RWD and it should be ok!!
Just a little something above the standard 197bhp! Maybe fixed with nitrous kicking in at about 3,500rpm when on WOT.
All it would need is a FMIC, boost controller and some skillful clutch control for the RWD and it should be ok!!
Just a little something above the standard 197bhp!
Maybe fixed with nitrous kicking in at about 3,500rpm when on WOT.
14 October 2003, 02:51 PM
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my mate built a nova that does 12.4 second quarters, with mates helping him out he built it for 3K. Although it runs slicks its running a standard cam + head and no slip diff!
all he has to do is change the wheels for normal alloys (10 minute job) then he can drive it on the road
[Edited by bobfrog1 - 10/14/2003 2:53:15 PM]
all he has to do is change the wheels for normal alloys (10 minute job) then he can drive it on the road
[Edited by bobfrog1 - 10/14/2003 2:53:15 PM]
14 October 2003, 03:05 PM
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Goochie, I personally don't like nova's either but If I was building a drag car for £6k (like the subject of this thread) I'd buy the cheapest, lightest shell I could get, imagine what a 3K 12.4 second nova would do with another 3K spend on it 
I've seens lots of cars at the Street Racer Sunday league in the POD, with the exception of a few cars it would be very difficult to build a drag car that does at least low 12 second quarters for £6K
I've seens lots of cars at the Street Racer Sunday league in the POD, with the exception of a few cars it would be very difficult to build a drag car that does at least low 12 second quarters for £6K
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14 October 2003, 03:34 PM
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I've seen Nova's converted with 4wd and the Calibra turbo engine in it for about £5k!!! 200bhp through all four wheels in a box weighting less than me (probably!!! )
Gary, the 205 is a good car, but how much work would you need to realistically do, to get 1/4 miles to under 13 seconds!!! ;eek:
If it were me, the Nova would be my choice!! 
200bhp through all four wheels in a box weighting less than me (probably!!! )Gary, the 205 is a good car, but how much work would you need to realistically do, to get 1/4 miles to under 13 seconds!!! ;eek:
If it were me, the Nova would be my choice!!
14 October 2003, 03:36 PM
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Forgot the say that it's up to £6k on the base car!!!
Mods can come later!! 
That said, he seems very reluctant to say how much he wants to spend!
Mods can come later!!
That said, he seems very reluctant to say how much he wants to spend!
14 October 2003, 03:55 PM
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He dont want much for the money this guy does he?
£3K would get a cossie and another couple would give him the BHP to do it I should think.
Either that or buy himself a mini (old old shape) strip it out, add a honda Vtec engine, add nitrous and the 12 second is no probs. I know that for a fact coz I got done up like a kipper at bug jam by one. Not sure it even had the Vtec, but he was running NOS and said it was around 230BHP
£3K would get a cossie and another couple would give him the BHP to do it I should think.
Either that or buy himself a mini (old old shape) strip it out, add a honda Vtec engine, add nitrous and the 12 second is no probs. I know that for a fact coz I got done up like a kipper at bug jam by one. Not sure it even had the Vtec, but he was running NOS and said it was around 230BHP
14 October 2003, 07:50 PM
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Dax Rush 4x4 + cossie running gear..about £14 +cossie (new)
Alternative, I'm working on the idea of a Jag XJS v12 (£500), stripped out and fitted with a manual 5 speed box or 4speed auto with a strip shift kit. Engine-wise..400bhp is a doddle just by some minor fettling. And 600bhp via dropping the compression and supercharging like here or a 7.2 conversion. But the weight is still a big problem
But using the theory that in standard 300bhp 3 speed auto trim it can do 0-60 of 6.5 ish (using just 1st gear!) and the 1/4 about 15secs. A manual box is said to knock off 1 second, add another 300bhp and 300lb/ft and loose some weight, you have something with alot of potential
So you could dump the v12 for a big-block Chevy, more tunable and 100lbs lighter But costs will start to get silly!
[Edited by ALi-B - 10/16/2003 10:51:24 AM]
Alternative, I'm working on the idea of a Jag XJS v12 (£500), stripped out and fitted with a manual 5 speed box or 4speed auto with a strip shift kit. Engine-wise..400bhp is a doddle just by some minor fettling. And 600bhp via dropping the compression and supercharging like here or a 7.2 conversion. But the weight is still a big problem
But using the theory that in standard 300bhp 3 speed auto trim it can do 0-60 of 6.5 ish (using just 1st gear!) and the 1/4 about 15secs. A manual box is said to knock off 1 second, add another 300bhp and 300lb/ft and loose some weight, you have something with alot of potential
So you could dump the v12 for a big-block Chevy, more tunable and 100lbs lighter
But costs will start to get silly![Edited by ALi-B - 10/16/2003 10:51:24 AM]
14 October 2003, 10:36 PM
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All this was for a work colleauge, who hasn't even bothered to reply!!!
If it were me, I would be considering the following:
1) Nissan 200SX (approx £7k for S14/S14a) - 197bhp
Stage 1 Mods: Full de-cat, filter, lift boost to 1bar, fit different intercooler (probably a Saab one) - 250bhp
Stage 2 Mods: Turbo, Full ECU - 280-300bhp
Stage 3 Mods: Improve fuelling (injectors, fuel pump, etc) and re-fine map - 300-320bhp
2) Vauxhall Nova with full Calibra turbo engine, running gear and gear box. (£6-10k) - Approx. 200bhp
Stage 1 Mods: Fit Nitrous with controller (to give additional 80-150bhp)
3) Cheap Subaru - £4k (240bhp)
Stage 1 Mods: Full De-cat, filter, boost controller (265bhp)
Stage 2 Mods: Front entry conversion on TD-05, improve fuelling system, FMIC (300bhp)
Stage 3 Mods: Full ECU, port headers (320bhp)
Stage 4 Mods: Larger turbo, ECU refinement, tuned headers (350-380bhp)
4) Integra Type-R - £6k
Stage 1 mods: Exhaust, filter, V-TEC controller - (200-210bhp)
Stage 2 mods: Nitrous (250-280bhp)
If it were me, I would be considering the following:
1) Nissan 200SX (approx £7k for S14/S14a) - 197bhp
Stage 1 Mods: Full de-cat, filter, lift boost to 1bar, fit different intercooler (probably a Saab one) - 250bhp
Stage 2 Mods: Turbo, Full ECU - 280-300bhp
Stage 3 Mods: Improve fuelling (injectors, fuel pump, etc) and re-fine map - 300-320bhp
2) Vauxhall Nova with full Calibra turbo engine, running gear and gear box. (£6-10k) - Approx. 200bhp
Stage 1 Mods: Fit Nitrous with controller (to give additional 80-150bhp)
3) Cheap Subaru - £4k (240bhp)
Stage 1 Mods: Full De-cat, filter, boost controller (265bhp)
Stage 2 Mods: Front entry conversion on TD-05, improve fuelling system, FMIC (300bhp)
Stage 3 Mods: Full ECU, port headers (320bhp)
Stage 4 Mods: Larger turbo, ECU refinement, tuned headers (350-380bhp)
4) Integra Type-R - £6k
Stage 1 mods: Exhaust, filter, V-TEC controller - (200-210bhp)
Stage 2 mods: Nitrous
(250-280bhp)
15 October 2003, 06:53 AM
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Get an old E30 316 for £500, buy a 5 litre M5 lump for £5k and you're sorted 
Or an early 200sx for £1k, then got 5k straightaway for mods
Renault 21 turbo 4x4 - think they're about 25p nowadays
Early 535 with a supercharger
540, can get these for 3k now - then a supercharger. And NOS
2nd gen RX7...200as std
etc etc - loads of choice.
But an E30 316 badged car with an M5 lump.....mmmmmmmmmm
Or an early 200sx for £1k, then got 5k straightaway for mods
Renault 21 turbo 4x4 - think they're about 25p nowadays
Early 535 with a supercharger
540, can get these for 3k now
- then a supercharger. And NOS 2nd gen RX7...200as std
etc etc - loads of choice.
But an E30 316 badged car with an M5 lump.....mmmmmmmmmm