GTI

Friend is looking for first car, he's 17 just passed his test.
So it needs to be; Cheap to insure (no bigger than 1.4)
Good Street Cred
Can't be Ford, Vauxhall, Citroen or Peugeot
Needs to be bigger enough (he's 6,3)
Needs to be nippy but not particulary fast

Doesn't want anything bigger than say VW Polo size.
So what we thinks, plus what to look for on cars you recommend to him.

Oh and about £3k to £4k.
Thanks in advance!

Olly

Smart

GTI

Interesting reply, but can't really see him in one!

Poor Guy

1973 triumph GT6 2ltr 6cyl.

GTI

Happen to have one for sale by any chance???
Stress CHEAP to insure (1.4 or less)

lol

Poor Guy

nope but theres one for sale in Classics and sports cars.
Ive just got one. This guy i know on his dads policy as 3rd driver paying £1800 on a 1.4 MGZR (bout 1 yr old)
Im paying £968 on a tuned GT6 as me as only driver unlimited miles.

spifires like 700 squid.

GTI

Interesting idea, don't know if he'd like a classic but can always suggest.
Will be his own insurance tho, will it make any difference?

Poor Guy

nope.
Im 17.
1973 GT6
2ltr
worth £5k
3rd party = 968 unlimited miles inc breakdown cover.
if i quote miles i get discount.
eg 6000 miles = 850£
4500 = 815£
3000 = 720£
Its VERY fast and loud. ~

full comps around 1400 which is still good at 17. And if he get pre 73 its tax free.


hehe on the subject of fast, took it to 4.5 k revs today and left a nova standing.(that was in 3rd starting at 30 mph)

BigT

Its not yellow is it

Poor Guy

when i get money it will be jet black with white racing stripes.
already has front spoiler from a later sports car.

Poor Guy

Rover Belco Magenta 9237

typical retro colour only done in '73.

Student Phil

So it can't be Ford, Vauxhall, Citroen or Peugeot and he doesn't want anything bigger than say VW Polo size.

Errrrrr.......that narrows it down to a VW Polo then? Possibly an older Civic? Why is he so against the makes listed above? All of them do perfectly reasonable first cars that are cheap to run, cheap(ish) to insure, reliable and hold their value well. Tell him to bit the bullet and consider a Pug or something. I am just about to sell my first car, which was a 206. Alright, the build isn't the best and it is sluggish, but not a single thing has gone wrong, it looks OK and it has enabled me to get use to the roads in a safe little car and build up some NCB. Can't say fairer than that!

SkodaMan

Well that seriously narrows things down! I'd suggest a VW Polo perhaps, which I had as a first car (although build quality was a little suspect). If he's not too picky about the badge (although I suspect he is from your criteria), then Skoda do the same car, only better and cheaper in the form of the Fabia.

Is he buying new or second hand? What kind of budget does he have?

BigT

Its just I saw a young lad in a yellow one in york

BigT

Mitsubishi Colt, Suzuki Swift, Toyota Corolla, Nissan Almera

GTI

£4000 tops!
Does not want a FORD full stop!
Vauxhall suppose he would have a Corsa.
Didn't think he could afford a 206 and finds the 106 undrivable because his legs are so long!
Same for Citroen Saxo and will not have Xsara!

Is that really all there is too choose from?

[Edited by GTI - 8/19/2003 10:58:30 PM]

BigT

Rover 200 new shape may sound dodgy but these cars are great. The 105Bhp 1.4 is a hoot I had a 1.8 VVC was a good car

GTI

Could give it ago, doubt he'd be interested.
Isn't the insurance on Civics quite high?

And what about Yaris???

Thanks!

SkodaMan

I believe he said something about "street cred"

VW Polo, VR Lupo, Seat Ibiza, Seat Arosa, Fiat Punto, Renault Clio, Skoda Fabia, Honda Civic, Nissan Almera, Toyota Corolla. Some of those may be a bit on the small side though...

Any of the above should be available in some form or other for about £4K when bought 3 or 4 years old, and should have a low insurance group. I can't vouch for the quality of some of them!

ace2002

Mini Convertible !!!

fatherpierre

Civic.

Turboteeth

Civic is a good car and pretty quick too Not that cheap to insure though.

Andy Tang

iTrader: (3)

Not a Ford, Vauxhall, Citroen or Peugeot!
1.4 or less
And street cred, for less than £4k!



I guess they want the moon on a stick as well!!!

If insurance is a problem, you'll find that Fords and Vauxhalls are the cheapest to insure. For some reason similar engines in say a VW are 2-3 insurance groups higher.

For that money, I would personally would go for a Peugeot 106 Rallye. Why?

1.3 engine (in the mark 1's, although they are 1.6 in the mark 2's)
Lightweight (manual windows, no air con, etc)
Rally slag cool!
Can be a little pricey to insure (compared to a Nova or a Fiesta) £2.5k-4k depending on condition, etc.
Steel wheels, so no need to worry about kerbing alloys (it will happen, no matter how good a driver your mate thinks they are)

So it's a Peugeot, but I'm surprised someone can add so many limitations with their first car!

Woz

Seat Ibiza - cheap vw polo, with all the build quality etc

1.4 are cheap, and quite nippy. for 4k can get a 3 yrs old virtually new car. Spend a few quid on some nice alloys, and as
a first car, its pretty neat

GTI

Think it will be a Polo or maybe a Clio.
He won't have a Ford (can't blame him) he can't afford a 206 and the 106 is tooo small (same for Saxo)
The Corsa maybe ok just loads of *** heads drive them!

Thanks!

Poor Guy

my friend has a modded new clio (he 20).
1.2 group 3 ithink. all the security goodies come with. £600 insurance fully comp.

Vtec Abuser

Evo VII Extreme...Hehehe

GTI

he's thinking of the new clio (the 1.2) because he knows people in the trade who has a couple/can get some and will give him a big discount.
Seen a black Polo on 99S 3dr 1.4 CL up at £3900 with 40k - sound good?