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24 July 2003, 09:48 AM
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If the feature in Autocar is correct then one of the engines to be fitted will be a normally aspirated 2.0 diesel with 69bhp.
69BHP!!!!!!!!!! WTF??????
That bloody thing won't be able to pull the skin of a rice pudding!
69BHP!!!!!!!!!! WTF??????
That bloody thing won't be able to pull the skin of a rice pudding!
24 July 2003, 01:14 PM
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It's not just wind tunnels, it's pedestrian protection standards, windscreen rake, bonnet angle and height above the engine etc etc.
Bloody pedestrians shouldn't be on the road in the first place [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Bloody pedestrians shouldn't be on the road in the first place [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
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Before any one says I am mad.
Just have a look carefully
similar body protection strips front and side.
similar shape wing mirrors
similar roof line and drop off at the back
similar bonnet style
similar door handles
Tha lights are more angular on the focus but again close and the front grill and bumper is completely different. Actually I quite like that Golf.
Anyone notice the golf has no side repeaters ?
[Edited by chrisp - 7/24/2003 9:09:49 PM]
Just have a look carefully
similar body protection strips front and side.
similar shape wing mirrors
similar roof line and drop off at the back
similar bonnet style
similar door handles
Tha lights are more angular on the focus but again close and the front grill and bumper is completely different. Actually I quite like that Golf.
Anyone notice the golf has no side repeaters ?
[Edited by chrisp - 7/24/2003 9:09:49 PM]
25 July 2003, 12:01 AM
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Don't think it looks anything like a focus
First car that sprang to mind was a 307....
Doesn't seem to have much in common with the previous mk's apart from the door handles
Unless it looks better in the flesh i wont be buying one
First car that sprang to mind was a 307....
Doesn't seem to have much in common with the previous mk's apart from the door handles
Unless it looks better in the flesh i wont be buying one
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I quite like it actually.
Chris - I reckon the side repeaters are in the wing mirrors a la Mercedes. Downside of that is: some git takes off your mirror in a narrow street. The cost of that electric heated mirror just went from up from £silly to £silly x 2...
Chris - I reckon the side repeaters are in the wing mirrors a la Mercedes. Downside of that is: some git takes off your mirror in a narrow street. The cost of that electric heated mirror just went from up from £silly to £silly x 2...
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After months of anticipation, Volkswagen has released the first official images and information about the all-new, fifth generation Golf model. As you can see, Volkswagen has evolved the Golf's design even further with taut surfaces, aggressive new headlamps pulled deep back into the hood and fenders, new two-piece tail lamp units and an overall better stance with shorter wheel-gaps. The 4-door model has a chunky and substantial look to it, making the outgoing Golf IV model look rather dated and bland in comparison. Overall we will reserve design judgment until we see the new model in person at the Frankfurt Auto Show this coming September.
On paper, the new car is substantially bigger than the outgoing fourth generation A-platform Golf. The new Golf V is nearly an inch wider, 1.5-inches taller and 2.2 inches longer than the old model. Rear seat passengers are treated to a substantial 2.6-inch increase in rear seat legroom thanks to the longer wheelbase including wheels pushed further to the corners of the vehicle.
The 4-door model and 2-door model will now have more distinct sheetmetal; the 4-door being more upright and utilitarian. This means front seat passengers see an additional .3 inches of head-room while rear seat passengers benefit from nearly an inch more rear head-room.
The GTI model will be released separately at a later date, but current reports indicate it will receive more aggressive styling cues to further differentiate it from standard 2-door models.
Mechanically the Golf V has a revised MacPherson front suspension setup and finally a fully independent rear suspension structure. Transmission offerings will include a six-speed manual, six-speed tiptronic and six-speed DSG unit. Engine choices for U.S. cars should include an inline-5 cylinder as a base-engine with 150-hp and a 16v 200-hp 2.0l 4-cylinder turbo as the uprated engine. The 2.0T will also be the base engine in the next U.S. GTI model. The 3.2l VR6 will not be available at introduction, but will be shown at a later date. 4motion is reportedly in the cards for the North American market, but not initially.
The all-new Jetta, built on the same Mark V platform will be introduced about a year from now and will share the same front end as the Golf V you see in the photos above. Worldwide Jetta production is moving to Mexico for this new Mark V Jetta. A Jetta Coupe hardtop/ convertible is also expected to be introduced in the next two years.
We expect Volkswagen of America to introduce Golf V models for our market at the North American International Auto Show in January of 2005. Cars could go on sale here just before that in late 2004. We'll stay on top of U.S. release dates as we get closer to the actual introduction.
VWvortex will be at the Frankfurt Auto Show this coming September with even more photos and our initial impressions of the all-new Golf V. In the meantime, the full Volkswagen AG press can be found below.
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Volkswagen AG Press Release -
Wolfsburg, Germany -- The Golf, the most successful German car of all time, reaches its fifth model generation in the autumn of 2003. Its design and technical features are more supreme, more dynamic than ever before. The new model will be recognised immediately as the latest version of a truly original concept, the 'Golf class'. The styling, with its characteristic C-post, powerfully shaped rear end, emphatically sporting nose and muscular, wedge-shaped outline, communicates a new, supremely dynamic personality.
Ever since a model bearing this name was first introduced almost thirty years ago, the Golf has been as unique as a one's own fingerprint. One of the secrets of its worldwide success (more than 22 million Golfs have so far been sold) is that Volkswagen, when it produced a direct successor to the Beetle, created an 'original' that resists imitation. For four generations now, the design has been perfected and updated, but it has always represented a stylistic image of its time. The fifth Golf model that is about to be launched retains this unique character but is also the biggest step forward so far in the evolution of this model, both visually and technically. The design team has given the new Golf a even more sharply focused dynamic character that also sets new emotive accents.
The front-end styling is new in every detail, and optimised for low aerodynamic drag. Another unmistakable feature are the twin circular headlights with the glass tapering toward the centre of the car and with horizontal flashing turn indicators in "Phaeton” style. Above the headlights, the side panels now rise more in a more pronounced curve than before and as part of the opening section of the engine hood, create a slightly V-shaped outline together with the radiator grille, that emphasises the dynamic character of this new Volkswagen even more.
The rear of the body is styled in an equally powerful manner: the rear body shoulders emphasise the Golf's strong visual presence, the bold rear lights with their twin circular elements are another immediately recognisable feature of current Volkswagen design. Half of each rear light cluster is incorporated into the tailgate, which is neatly laid out, with a large rear window that ensures a good view to the rear and, together with the side windows extending back as far as the C-post, for visual lightness and elegance. The overall effect is an emotive one that makes the new Golf seem even more agile and dynamic than any of the previous model generations.
Equipment and décor - perfection down to the smallest detail
This dynamic image is possessed by every version of the new Golf, which as a high-volume model will debut with two- or four-door body styles and be available with Trendline, Comfortline or Sportline decor. Common to all these versions is a very full luxury and safety specification including six airbags, five head restraints (of active pattern for the front seats), lap-and-shoulder seat belts, a new type of safety steering column and a pedal assembly that yields to minimise the risk of injury in the event of a crash.
Every detail of the design has been perfectly solved: the controls for instance, are easily understood and ergonomically correct in their positioning; all functional levels have been kept separate to avoid confusion, and the switches and pushbuttons can be operated intuitively. An example of this is the optional Climatronic automatic air conditioning, which has separate controls for the driver and front passenger: if the car is reversed, it switches to the recirculated-air mode. If the windscreen washer is operated, the intelligent control system interrupts the fresh-air supply immediately. The seats are another good example: they are of entirely new design, for maximum occupant comfort, and Volkswagen is also the first manufacturer to offer a car in this market segment with the option of four-way electric lumbar support (integrated into the electrically adjustable seat) and also an independent heater for use when the car is at a standstill. In addition to the 60 : 40 split rear seat backs, which can be folded down as a standard feature, an optional front passenger's seat back that folds forward can also be obtained for maximum load-carrying capacity.
The body - a new value standard
The body itself is wider than before (1,759 mm / + 24 mm) and also higher (1,483 mm / + 39 mm) and longer (4,204 mm / + 57 mm); it therefore provided distinctly more interior space, particularly in the rear-seat area (+ 65 mm legroom, + 24 mm headroom at the rear and + 8 mm at the front. The luggage compartment now holds 347 litres and the interior length has gone up by 54 mm. These gains move the Golf nearer to the next-higher passenger-car category, but in doing so also serve to emphasise its classless character. This is even more true of the standard of quality it achieves, which is unique in this market segment. The bodyshell's static rigidity value is an impressive 80 % (!) higher and thus superior to any of the new Golf's competitors.
Suspension - extreme agility and safety
Volkswagen has given the Golf's new, dynamic safety suspension settings that are at the same time sporty and comfortable. At the front, the spring strut suspension layout has been optimised in many areas, to ensure accurate directional guidance and stability. At the rear, a new multi-link suspension layout has been developed. The handling and ride quality have been perfected by a completely new and highly innovative form of electro-mechanical power steering, which not only provides a degree of power assistance that matches the car's road speed, but also makes a big contribution to straight-line precision. Standard features on the new Golf are the latest ESP electronic stabilisation programme and a Brake Assist device, to guarantee maximum stability and retention of the chosen line when cornering and braking. The brake system, with optimised cooling, forms a reliable basis for excellent stopping distances. In the sum of all these positive features, the Golf's chassis and suspension represents an unparalleled blend of ride comfort to a standard normally only associated with a much larger car, excellent steering response and road behavior.
The power train - with innovative direct injection
The power train also provides ample evidence of Volkswagen's technological leadership. The keyword here is direct fuel injection. Taking the TDI diesel engines as an example, the supreme new power unit in this area is the 2.0 TDI, which develops 103 kW (140 PS). It is a high-torque four-cylinder unit with four valves per cylinder, driving the wheels through a new six-speed gearbox or with the option of the direct-shift gearbox (also with six speeds). Volkswagen was the first manufacturer worldwide to introduce this type of gearbox, in its Golf R32 DSG model. Then there are the FSI engines: this abbreviation is used for the units with direct petrol injection. The 1.6 FSI, rated at 85 kW (115 PS), has already proved successful in the Touran and is now to be available in the Golf. Here too, a six-speed gearbox is standard equipment, but the driver can, as an optional extra, leave the gear changes to a smooth, efficient six-sped automatic transmission. The new Golf will be launched with a choice of four power units - two petrol engines (55 kW / 75 PS and the 1.6 FSI with an output of 85 kW (115 PS), and two TDI diesels (77 kW / 105 PS or 103 kW / 140 PS). All Golf engines comply with the EU 4 exhaust emission standard. Four further engines will be launched slightly later, including two FSI units and an SDI diesel. In due course, additional engine options at the top end of the power-output scale will also become available. Delivery of cars with the automatic transmission and DSG options will start early in 2004.
On paper, the new car is substantially bigger than the outgoing fourth generation A-platform Golf. The new Golf V is nearly an inch wider, 1.5-inches taller and 2.2 inches longer than the old model. Rear seat passengers are treated to a substantial 2.6-inch increase in rear seat legroom thanks to the longer wheelbase including wheels pushed further to the corners of the vehicle.
The 4-door model and 2-door model will now have more distinct sheetmetal; the 4-door being more upright and utilitarian. This means front seat passengers see an additional .3 inches of head-room while rear seat passengers benefit from nearly an inch more rear head-room.
The GTI model will be released separately at a later date, but current reports indicate it will receive more aggressive styling cues to further differentiate it from standard 2-door models.
Mechanically the Golf V has a revised MacPherson front suspension setup and finally a fully independent rear suspension structure. Transmission offerings will include a six-speed manual, six-speed tiptronic and six-speed DSG unit. Engine choices for U.S. cars should include an inline-5 cylinder as a base-engine with 150-hp and a 16v 200-hp 2.0l 4-cylinder turbo as the uprated engine. The 2.0T will also be the base engine in the next U.S. GTI model. The 3.2l VR6 will not be available at introduction, but will be shown at a later date. 4motion is reportedly in the cards for the North American market, but not initially.
The all-new Jetta, built on the same Mark V platform will be introduced about a year from now and will share the same front end as the Golf V you see in the photos above. Worldwide Jetta production is moving to Mexico for this new Mark V Jetta. A Jetta Coupe hardtop/ convertible is also expected to be introduced in the next two years.
We expect Volkswagen of America to introduce Golf V models for our market at the North American International Auto Show in January of 2005. Cars could go on sale here just before that in late 2004. We'll stay on top of U.S. release dates as we get closer to the actual introduction.
VWvortex will be at the Frankfurt Auto Show this coming September with even more photos and our initial impressions of the all-new Golf V. In the meantime, the full Volkswagen AG press can be found below.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Volkswagen AG Press Release -
Wolfsburg, Germany -- The Golf, the most successful German car of all time, reaches its fifth model generation in the autumn of 2003. Its design and technical features are more supreme, more dynamic than ever before. The new model will be recognised immediately as the latest version of a truly original concept, the 'Golf class'. The styling, with its characteristic C-post, powerfully shaped rear end, emphatically sporting nose and muscular, wedge-shaped outline, communicates a new, supremely dynamic personality.
Ever since a model bearing this name was first introduced almost thirty years ago, the Golf has been as unique as a one's own fingerprint. One of the secrets of its worldwide success (more than 22 million Golfs have so far been sold) is that Volkswagen, when it produced a direct successor to the Beetle, created an 'original' that resists imitation. For four generations now, the design has been perfected and updated, but it has always represented a stylistic image of its time. The fifth Golf model that is about to be launched retains this unique character but is also the biggest step forward so far in the evolution of this model, both visually and technically. The design team has given the new Golf a even more sharply focused dynamic character that also sets new emotive accents.
The front-end styling is new in every detail, and optimised for low aerodynamic drag. Another unmistakable feature are the twin circular headlights with the glass tapering toward the centre of the car and with horizontal flashing turn indicators in "Phaeton” style. Above the headlights, the side panels now rise more in a more pronounced curve than before and as part of the opening section of the engine hood, create a slightly V-shaped outline together with the radiator grille, that emphasises the dynamic character of this new Volkswagen even more.
The rear of the body is styled in an equally powerful manner: the rear body shoulders emphasise the Golf's strong visual presence, the bold rear lights with their twin circular elements are another immediately recognisable feature of current Volkswagen design. Half of each rear light cluster is incorporated into the tailgate, which is neatly laid out, with a large rear window that ensures a good view to the rear and, together with the side windows extending back as far as the C-post, for visual lightness and elegance. The overall effect is an emotive one that makes the new Golf seem even more agile and dynamic than any of the previous model generations.
Equipment and décor - perfection down to the smallest detail
This dynamic image is possessed by every version of the new Golf, which as a high-volume model will debut with two- or four-door body styles and be available with Trendline, Comfortline or Sportline decor. Common to all these versions is a very full luxury and safety specification including six airbags, five head restraints (of active pattern for the front seats), lap-and-shoulder seat belts, a new type of safety steering column and a pedal assembly that yields to minimise the risk of injury in the event of a crash.
Every detail of the design has been perfectly solved: the controls for instance, are easily understood and ergonomically correct in their positioning; all functional levels have been kept separate to avoid confusion, and the switches and pushbuttons can be operated intuitively. An example of this is the optional Climatronic automatic air conditioning, which has separate controls for the driver and front passenger: if the car is reversed, it switches to the recirculated-air mode. If the windscreen washer is operated, the intelligent control system interrupts the fresh-air supply immediately. The seats are another good example: they are of entirely new design, for maximum occupant comfort, and Volkswagen is also the first manufacturer to offer a car in this market segment with the option of four-way electric lumbar support (integrated into the electrically adjustable seat) and also an independent heater for use when the car is at a standstill. In addition to the 60 : 40 split rear seat backs, which can be folded down as a standard feature, an optional front passenger's seat back that folds forward can also be obtained for maximum load-carrying capacity.
The body - a new value standard
The body itself is wider than before (1,759 mm / + 24 mm) and also higher (1,483 mm / + 39 mm) and longer (4,204 mm / + 57 mm); it therefore provided distinctly more interior space, particularly in the rear-seat area (+ 65 mm legroom, + 24 mm headroom at the rear and + 8 mm at the front. The luggage compartment now holds 347 litres and the interior length has gone up by 54 mm. These gains move the Golf nearer to the next-higher passenger-car category, but in doing so also serve to emphasise its classless character. This is even more true of the standard of quality it achieves, which is unique in this market segment. The bodyshell's static rigidity value is an impressive 80 % (!) higher and thus superior to any of the new Golf's competitors.
Suspension - extreme agility and safety
Volkswagen has given the Golf's new, dynamic safety suspension settings that are at the same time sporty and comfortable. At the front, the spring strut suspension layout has been optimised in many areas, to ensure accurate directional guidance and stability. At the rear, a new multi-link suspension layout has been developed. The handling and ride quality have been perfected by a completely new and highly innovative form of electro-mechanical power steering, which not only provides a degree of power assistance that matches the car's road speed, but also makes a big contribution to straight-line precision. Standard features on the new Golf are the latest ESP electronic stabilisation programme and a Brake Assist device, to guarantee maximum stability and retention of the chosen line when cornering and braking. The brake system, with optimised cooling, forms a reliable basis for excellent stopping distances. In the sum of all these positive features, the Golf's chassis and suspension represents an unparalleled blend of ride comfort to a standard normally only associated with a much larger car, excellent steering response and road behavior.
The power train - with innovative direct injection
The power train also provides ample evidence of Volkswagen's technological leadership. The keyword here is direct fuel injection. Taking the TDI diesel engines as an example, the supreme new power unit in this area is the 2.0 TDI, which develops 103 kW (140 PS). It is a high-torque four-cylinder unit with four valves per cylinder, driving the wheels through a new six-speed gearbox or with the option of the direct-shift gearbox (also with six speeds). Volkswagen was the first manufacturer worldwide to introduce this type of gearbox, in its Golf R32 DSG model. Then there are the FSI engines: this abbreviation is used for the units with direct petrol injection. The 1.6 FSI, rated at 85 kW (115 PS), has already proved successful in the Touran and is now to be available in the Golf. Here too, a six-speed gearbox is standard equipment, but the driver can, as an optional extra, leave the gear changes to a smooth, efficient six-sped automatic transmission. The new Golf will be launched with a choice of four power units - two petrol engines (55 kW / 75 PS and the 1.6 FSI with an output of 85 kW (115 PS), and two TDI diesels (77 kW / 105 PS or 103 kW / 140 PS). All Golf engines comply with the EU 4 exhaust emission standard. Four further engines will be launched slightly later, including two FSI units and an SDI diesel. In due course, additional engine options at the top end of the power-output scale will also become available. Delivery of cars with the automatic transmission and DSG options will start early in 2004.
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The front lights look like the rears of an R33 GTR 
or one of the new beemers I think.........
I think it looks crap - hatchbacks are starting to look really naff these days
or one of the new beemers I think.........I think it looks crap - hatchbacks are starting to look really naff these days
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