the chosen one

At least according to Top Gear these are the top 10 cars of all time

1. McLaren F1
2. Ford Mustang
3. Black Cab
4. Land Rover
5. Jag E Type
6. Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
7. Audi Quattro
8. Fiat 500
9. CV 300

well everyone knows where i'm going, i'm going for the McLaren F1

CHRIS_D

you obviously copied and pasted my list.........it was slightly wrong

heres the correct one:

1. McLaren F1
2. Ford Mustang
3. Black Cab
4. Rolls Royce Silver Cloud
5. Jag E Type
6. Land Rover
7. Audi Quattro
8. Fiat 500
9. Citroen DS

chris

still Mclaren BTW

Twin-turbo

My personal fav from that list would be the Audi, as I love the old Rally slags.!!!

fatherpierre

Most can only judge on looks/image.

Unless you've had experience those motors you can't really judge.

Mmmmm

Not really a good list

Fiat 500

Mycroft

Where is the car that had the first :-
.. Monocoque?
.. Electronic [cheap] Fuel injection?
.. a collapsible steering column?
.. disc brakes?
.. seat belts?
.. ABS?

fatherpierre

Didn't see the programme.

What was the justification behind the 500 and black cab?

The old balck cabs were capable of doing 2000000 miles so fair enough! The newer ones fall to bit within a few years!

MGJohn

My vote ... none of the above ....

MGJohn

.... so wont vote ... would have done so if 1955 300SL Gull Wing MB and/or original Mini were included in the nine .... but they were not ... so shall not play .... so there ...

Pumpkin

first monocoque - Lancia Lambda

MR2 Rob

Out of the list.....either Quattro or F1

but where are......

XK120 / 150 - Just purely beautiful cars
D-Type - Le Mans
C-Type - Le Mans again

911 - Still amazing after all these years

VW Golf (started a bit of a trend dont you think?)

MK1 MR2 (not my favourite but one of the first decent mid engine rear drive sportscars at affordable price)

250 GTO - ****!!!
AC Cobra - animal

si325i

Audi 4me..

Quote "I am a driving GOD!) what a ****, sorry ****!.

Si

P20SPD

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I know it is monday, but i only count 9 in bothe those lists, not ten, or is it just me?

si325i

yeap 9 something to do with the way the BBC is funded.???

Ciaran

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but this is not fairly judged to be truthful its only realy tested on desirability not on things like performance handaling or running cost's is it?

Merc_Cosworth

This is too big a subject to simply take ten apparently random cars from vastly different era and genres and try to judge which is the greatest.

The F1 is irrelevant - unless you're trying to decide on a sort of pinnacle of supercar manufacturing

To be better the list should read like this - based on the effect and subsequent influence it on the motoring world when it first appeared

1) Ford Model T - first mass produced car
2) Audi quattro - first mass produced 4wd performance car
3) Lambo Miura - every MR supercar since has been influenced by it
4) Mini - first well erm, Mini - so influential it defies belief
5) BMW 2002 Turbo - first successfully turbocharged car
6) Porsche 911 - evergreen benchmark for everything at the performance end
7) Landrover - first commercialisation of a military vehicle
8) Lotus 7 - after 40 years still proving that lightness is better than power
9) Renault Espace - People carrier pap - but it was the first one that actually worked
10) Datsun 120 - signalled the beginning of the end for the 'great british motor industry' and the japanese invasion began.

Houlbt

to be fair to Merc_Cossie I think that is a pretty good attempt.

Let's face it though, this is like the 100 greatest acotrs discussion or 100 greatest brits.... or 100 greatest songs etc etc. Nobody will ever agree.

what about the E30-M3??? not that I'm biased

Merc_Cosworth

Nah - the Mercedes 2.3-16v was better, and arrived about 2 years earlier.

Mycroft

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5) BMW 2002 Turbo - first successfully turbocharged car
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SAAB has that honour... the BM [I have driven one] was an on-off affair with lag of unbelieveable magnitude... and if you were becalmed... spooling in second you could wait 3-4 seconds... the SAAB worked and was quite readily available.

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7) Landrover - first commercialisation of a military vehicle
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I think Jeep might argue that... L-R 1948, Jeep 1946... moot point I would say but worth pointing out...

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8) Lotus 7 - after 40 years still proving that lightness is better than power
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Austin 7 of the thirties proved that and Allard also...


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9) Renault Espace - People carrier pap - but it was the first one that actually worked
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FIAT Multipla of the Fifties has that honour. good list tho...


[Edited by Mycroft - 5/12/2003 2:09:54 PM]

Merc_Cosworth

Falls off chair as Mycroft agrees!!!

Edited - cos you changed your tune you goit.

Right - Lotus 7, still in production now. Still a benchmark in its latest maddest form. Austin 7 not...
BMW 2002 - I'll stick with the Bimmer on this one - the Saab was better, but I couldn't have a Saab as one of the greatest 10
Renault Espace - read the thing.. it weren't the first, but it actually worked and didn't look too much like a van with windows.
Jeep - well the L-R was a ground up design based on the ****** GP, the Jeep was a ****** GP. I'd argue that the Landrover was better as a vehicle, went through more adaptations, applications and sold in far greater numbers (outside of Military use) than the Jeep.

[Edited by Merc_Cosworth - 5/12/2003 2:48:56 PM]

David_Wallis

im voting for no 10 - Pug 106 Gti

(its withing my budget.. I may dream of a maclaren f1 but I could never in this lifetime justify £600k+ on a car.)

David

J4CKO

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Mycrofts proper list,

10/ Soarer 4.0 in American old lady Gold
9/ Soarer 4.0 in Pearlescent beige (Werthers Orginal Style)
8/ Soarer 4.0 in Pearlescent snot colour
7/ Soarer 4.0 Photoshop job
6/ Soarer Thats not quite mine, but just might be
5/ Soarer 2.5 T with no mods (2995 ONO on Autotrader.co.ck)
4/ Soarer, My mates one to the Colonels secret recipe
3/ Soarer, Mycrofts own, photoshopped to perfection
2/ Soarer 2.5 Turbo on a 250 kilos of Organic downforce in the boot courtesy of the man himself.

1/ Random Soarer picture #14227, Blue one that actually looks quite well done that I found on an American website that dates back to 1994 when people still gave a t0ss.

J4CKO

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Almost Faultless ?

the chosen one

you forgot his own car, this is the one you should've added "Mycrofts soarer" lmao

Claudius

1. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 5 Hyper Lemon by JUN
2. Toyota Soarer by Mycroft (V8 TT)
3. Nissan Skyline GTR (one of those with over 1000 bhp)
4. whatever
5. etc.

Stevie

Being sad, the ****** Jeep was never actually available to the public, so surely the Land Rover was the first commercialised ex military vehicle, because you could actually buy one!

Or am I taking this a little too seriously?

chrisp

I am typing this slowly as I know from the comments above most cant read fast .

You have to select one of 9 listed not make your own list up .

F1 for me everyday of the week except saturdays when I would want a soarer to do the shopping run in .

Mycroft

Crisp... I'm sure that sitting in a garage with the Maclaren a Soarer wouldn't look down on the F1... too often.

Question... do Council houses have double garages or would you leave the F1 parked in the road?

the chosen one

to be honest i think Top Gear's list is a bit screwed up, i don't think most of the cars of that car were hugely influential.

heres my list:

Mclaren F1
Subaru impreza
Ford mustang
AC cobra
Dodge charger
Nissan skyline
Jaguar xj220
Mitsubishi evo's
Pug 205 gti
Golf gti

sorry mycroft your car isn't up there mate

CrisPDuk

Why the Mustang AND the Charger? surely the latter was introduced to compete with the former, proving the Mustang's status.

As Murray said the F1 is the ultimate no-compromise road supercar, but surely the XJ220 was only ever a footnote, it brought nothing new to the party except proof that a major car manufacturer can renege on a promise & get away with it. Where was it's V12, or the 4WD. & No, you certainly cannot have your deposit back