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Old 09 December 2002, 02:57 PM
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Well after almost 12 months of work its almost finished....

Its been a massively long project rebuilding the engine, and getting DTA ecu fitted. Many nightmares along the way, bruised knuckles, burnt fingers and stupid amounts of money spent

Anyway she's been mapped up finally after the horrendous running in period.

Now its running :-
DTA 3D mappable ECU

Forged pistons
Lightened & balanced crank, rods, flywheel, clutch cover
310 duration (Tarmac rally) cam
Gas flowed head

Quiafe ATB LSD
Stock 1.6GTi gearbox
5.0 crown wheel & pinion waiting to be fitted. Lowering gearing to 120MPH @ 8000RPM (over 160MPH @ 8000 on stock CW&P)
OMP Group A exhaust, with 90degree down turn pipe

Running it at the weekend its VERY VERY cammy. Nothing at all below 4000, then all hell breaks loose after 4500 until 7700 current rev limit. The noise inside is amazing. Its got one hell of a note once it comes on cam

Managed a rather worrying 13MPG over a 120 mile mixed drive of motorway and twisty B roads









Old 09 December 2002, 03:02 PM
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Just out of interest did you have many problems getting the DTA working?? The reason I ask is that we are putting a Honda VTEC engine into my brothers rallycross mini and are going to use a DTA for the engine management. We sent the engine wiring loom away to get it converted for the DTA and it came back with a lot fewer connections that if had when we sent it away!!

So did you have many problems and are you using the traction control system??
Old 09 December 2002, 03:06 PM
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We bought their wiring loom, which is expensive, but very good and looks lovely and neat. Biggest problem was the throttle position sensor and the dizzy removal for the coil.

No we've got the cheapy ECU with no traction control. Its only the E48 EXP ECU not the P8 Pro which supports full TCS.
Old 09 December 2002, 03:30 PM
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Blackscooby - seen the pics on the 205gti drivers board - looks good. what have you done re the suspension - is it stock or have you replaced the torsion bars/dampers etc?

Have you had any oil surge probs or is the sump baffled?

I'm building a 205 at the mo to 750mc stock hatch spec (so I can race when I get chance!)

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Jon,

Suspension is our next thing. Its uprated stuts at the front, Bilstien I think, with a "slammed to the max" torsion bar on the back which makes it bloody horrendous. Shocking lift off oversteer. We;re gonna rebuild the rear beam and raise it off the bump stops

Maybe later speak to Skip Brown Cars regarding their suspension setups.

Never had problems with oil surge ~ petrol starvation yes, oil no !
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Is it still running on injection or have you put it on carbs? Nice pair of 45s and that would sound cool
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"Currently" on injection ~ Throttle bodies are an possibility
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I'm going for Leda all round (the short body stock hatch spec dampers) with pug sport 23mm torsion bars and a 30-40mm drop as I hear anything more than that makes it undrivable and knackers the driveshafts. Be interesting to see how it behaves once it's done....
Old 09 December 2002, 09:19 PM
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Cool

Joey, I thought the same about the loom when I put an Emerald ECU on my motor, but most of the wire & sensors on modern cars are needed for emmisions reasons, if you're after power, and more power, these bits are just excess weight
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