Scoob Vs Astra Turbo.
19 November 2002, 10:12 PM
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My mate just popped round in a new 2Ltr Astra turbo and I have to say I was dead impressed.
It actually felt faster than my scoob and had hardly any lag at all.
Anyone else driven one ?
Olly.
It actually felt faster than my scoob and had hardly any lag at all.
Anyone else driven one ?
Olly.
19 November 2002, 10:17 PM
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Just had a race with an Astra GSI (on private lands of course). I was well impressed with how it handled against my type RA. But in the end, superior driving wins.
19 November 2002, 10:31 PM
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Had a "play" with one of these on the motorway, wasnt impressed as i just pulled nicely away, the astra just couldnt keep pace 
The last one that tried did pass me, i was in 5th at 50mph and accellerating though, he was going though the gears, it took him quite a while to get to where i was so wasnt impressed then either.
Scoob 2, Astra 0
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[Edited by TonyBurns - 11/19/2002 10:32:35 PM]
The last one that tried did pass me, i was in 5th at 50mph and accellerating though, he was going though the gears, it took him quite a while to get to where i was so wasnt impressed then either.
Scoob 2, Astra 0
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[Edited by TonyBurns - 11/19/2002 10:32:35 PM]
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19 November 2002, 11:00 PM
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I changed my astra coupe turbo for a scoob a couple of months ago, the astra is not a bad car at all, its let down by poor builds quality and dealers that dont give a toss.
As far as whats quicker, my standard my02 car was no match for the astra apart from 0-60ish and for top speed no scoob with less than 280bhp will top it.
A friend of mine with a derestricted M3 E36 couldnt believe it when he only just crept pass me at an indicated 165mph.
All in the "modified" MY02 that i drive now would run rings around one, except on a motorway, unfortunately for vauxhall this car is a victim of their poor image when really its a very entertaining and user-friendly car.
As far as whats quicker, my standard my02 car was no match for the astra apart from 0-60ish and for top speed no scoob with less than 280bhp will top it.
A friend of mine with a derestricted M3 E36 couldnt believe it when he only just crept pass me at an indicated 165mph.
All in the "modified" MY02 that i drive now would run rings around one, except on a motorway, unfortunately for vauxhall this car is a victim of their poor image when really its a very entertaining and user-friendly car.
19 November 2002, 11:10 PM
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20 November 2002, 12:41 AM
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I have a Fiesta and I'd rather peel the skin from my feet and push it accross Bonnerville salt flats whilst listening to deeply dippy by right said fred than drive a Vauxhaul
20 November 2002, 06:58 AM
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In the summer i had to really push a 911 3.2 Carrera that i was driving to keep up with an Astra Turbo. It did seem to have really good midrange and at first i was caught out in fourth gear and got left behind when we both overtook a lorry!
Driver was a *** though, gave him a thumbs up when we went different ways at a roundabout and he gave me the w@nker sign
I guess you could call them fast but no class
Driver was a *** though, gave him a thumbs up when we went different ways at a roundabout and he gave me the w@nker sign
I guess you could call them fast but no class
20 November 2002, 07:18 AM
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At our recent car show (Auto Africa) the local Opel club were showing a video of how an Opel Turbo was keeping up with a R1...
Has since been confirmed as a fake strangely enough.
Has since been confirmed as a fake strangely enough.
20 November 2002, 08:13 AM
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How?
An R1 can do a 0-60 in about 3 seconds, 0-100 in about 8.
The Astra will struggle to do it in 6 and 15 respectively.
Maybe some trick photography, or like I said originally a crap rider (or one that wasn't trying).
An R1 can do a 0-60 in about 3 seconds, 0-100 in about 8.
The Astra will struggle to do it in 6 and 15 respectively.
Maybe some trick photography, or like I said originally a crap rider (or one that wasn't trying).
20 November 2002, 10:01 AM
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Astra coupe turbo's are slow, end of story
This car just about gets into the 6's to 60 and weighing in at 100kg more than my classic shaped scoob is somewhat heavier (with less power and torque) and isnt really capable of getting under 18 secs to 100 if that.
Now it does have an indicated higher top speed (around 153mph to 144mph) but at what rpm does this come in? (uk cars are capable of hitting 150mph but not for long periods of time).
As for lower drag factor... true but if you have more bhp and torque then that negates the drag factor
As for seeing an E36 M3 pass you at 165mph.... to be honest, id be doing 20+mph quicker than the none evo version at 130mph so it wouldnt really matter as it would be a small dot in the rear view mirror (they are quite gutless really with weight against them and lack of torque).
The astra coupe will struggle against lots of cars out there, its a hot hatch and cars like the civic type r will make mincemeat out of it (clio 172's, leon cupra R's etc will also make mincemeat out of it).
Its not really a quick car.
Tony
This car just about gets into the 6's to 60 and weighing in at 100kg more than my classic shaped scoob is somewhat heavier (with less power and torque
) and isnt really capable of getting under 18 secs to 100 if that.Now it does have an indicated higher top speed (around 153mph to 144mph) but at what rpm does this come in? (uk cars are capable of hitting 150mph but not for long periods of time).
As for lower drag factor... true but if you have more bhp and torque then that negates the drag factor
As for seeing an E36 M3 pass you at 165mph.... to be honest, id be doing 20+mph quicker than the none evo version at 130mph so it wouldnt really matter as it would be a small dot in the rear view mirror
(they are quite gutless really with weight against them and lack of torque).The astra coupe will struggle against lots of cars out there, its a hot hatch and cars like the civic type r will make mincemeat out of it (clio 172's, leon cupra R's etc will also make mincemeat out of it).
Its not really a quick car.
Tony
20 November 2002, 11:36 AM
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When the Astra Turbo first came out I took one look at the top speed and knew it I wouldn't like it. Given its power to weight ratio it could have been very quick if they had stuck in shorter gearing. 135mph would have been plenty IMO for a car that size.
20 November 2002, 11:59 AM
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hmm TSP dont you ever watch touring cars???
Could have sworn the vauxhalls seem to go round corners pretty well.
Oh by the way i have a seriously modded 22B and also have an Astra 888 turbo.
Astra is not a patch on the 22B but my friend has a bugeye with an exhaust and i am sorry to say but the astra is definately a match for the car in a straight line as we have tried all the way to an indicated 150mph and as for its cornering abilities it is simply awesome for a front wheel drive car and would definately rate it better than his bug eye.
Just my two pence worth.
Of course suspension is tweaked a bit on the 888.
Could have sworn the vauxhalls seem to go round corners pretty well.
Oh by the way i have a seriously modded 22B and also have an Astra 888 turbo.
Astra is not a patch on the 22B but my friend has a bugeye with an exhaust and i am sorry to say but the astra is definately a match for the car in a straight line as we have tried all the way to an indicated 150mph and as for its cornering abilities it is simply awesome for a front wheel drive car and would definately rate it better than his bug eye.
Just my two pence worth.
Of course suspension is tweaked a bit on the 888.
20 November 2002, 12:39 PM
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Why do people keep comparing road cars to race cars..... what could you take from a road going Astra and put onto a BTCC Astra? The badge perhaps!
As for VX220, they're just a rebranded lotus
Sorry guys but Vauxhaul don't make good handling cars!
As for VX220, they're just a rebranded lotus
Sorry guys but Vauxhaul don't make good handling cars!
20 November 2002, 01:45 PM
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Last year I spent a pleasant afternoon pounding round the Jerez GP circuit lap after lap in several Astra Coupe turbos, courtesy of Vauxhall
Impressed with being flown there as a freebie on a private chartered jet by Vauxhall (cheers chaps ) - but not too impressed by the Astra
Eventually took one back with melted tyres - the only time it was much fun to drive as it dialled out the terminal understeer and four wheel drifted instead.
Oh, and the comment re the race car? The Egg car was out on track at the same time, and for some reason it left my car for dead
Also got chauffered round in a VX220 by Jason Plato, and had a hilarious three or four laps looking out of the side window at the track in front
Impressed with being flown there as a freebie on a private chartered jet by Vauxhall (cheers chaps
) - but not too impressed by the AstraEventually took one back with melted tyres - the only time it was much fun to drive as it dialled out the terminal understeer and four wheel drifted instead.
Oh, and the comment re the race car? The Egg car was out on track at the same time, and for some reason it left my car for dead
Also got chauffered round in a VX220 by Jason Plato, and had a hilarious three or four laps looking out of the side window at the track in front
20 November 2002, 01:54 PM
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Well, Vauxhall do benefit from Lotus engineering as far as handling goes. And anyone can build an engine that will propel a car fast enough in a forward direction (Vauxhall definitely have.. Lotus Carlton is an example). That ugly VX thing is apparently very very good in the handling department and is reasoanbly quick too.
That said, I'm not ever likely to change my Scooby for either or any Vauxhall. Not yet found one to trouble me - although I have played with a Lotus Carlton.
Kevin
PS. I've had 3 Cavaliers in my time (fortunate/unfortunate, make up your own mind) the last of which was a J plate 130bhp model which I sold as the deposit for Scooby.
It was capable of accelerating well past the speedos indicated maximum 140mph on the Autobahn and with 16" rubber being the only handling mod, it was a suprisingly tight and tidy handler.
[Edited by K9VYN [Kevin W] - 11/20/2002 2:01:50 PM]
That said, I'm not ever likely to change my Scooby for either or any Vauxhall. Not yet found one to trouble me - although I have played with a Lotus Carlton.
Kevin
PS. I've had 3 Cavaliers in my time (fortunate/unfortunate, make up your own mind) the last of which was a J plate 130bhp model which I sold as the deposit for Scooby.
It was capable of accelerating well past the speedos indicated maximum 140mph on the Autobahn and with 16" rubber being the only handling mod, it was a suprisingly tight and tidy handler.
[Edited by K9VYN [Kevin W] - 11/20/2002 2:01:50 PM]
20 November 2002, 03:44 PM
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Veracocha ya cheeky g1t
If you look at the vauxhall's power to weight ratio its around 141bhp per tonne, a classic non modified uk car is 177bhp per tonne and that does make a difference
Now my cars over 210bhp per tonne so given that to a vauxhall and thats 70bhp per tonne more, makes for light work of said vauxhall
I dunno where you got the RUF 911 from though
as i dont think that many cars could keep up with one of those (except co55ies cosworth of course 
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Tony
PS did i forget to mention, long gearing, low power = slow car?
Vauxhalls for you
If you look at the vauxhall's power to weight ratio its around 141bhp per tonne, a classic non modified uk car is 177bhp per tonne and that does make a difference
Now my cars over 210bhp per tonne so given that to a vauxhall and thats 70bhp per tonne more, makes for light work of said vauxhall
I dunno where you got the RUF 911 from though
as i dont think that many cars could keep up with one of those (except co55ies cosworth of course )Tony
PS did i forget to mention, long gearing, low power = slow car?
Vauxhalls for you