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Old 09 June 2002, 04:38 PM
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Does anyone know anything about them? Are there many about, if they actually got into production...
Old 09 June 2002, 06:02 PM
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I can't remember how many were made, but it was not many, IIRC about half of what they originally planned. 0-60 was around 7.7 as they weighed 100kg or so more than a std puma. Cornering ability was supposed to be very good, although the suspension was very very hard.
I never could see the point of it, it was too slow for a 20K+ car, especially when you compared it to the stock 1.7 which was much, much cheaper. Not seen many for sale second hand, but those that were still seemed to be stupidly priced.
Old 09 June 2002, 06:20 PM
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I echo Robertio's post.

The standard 1.7 Puma like my old one was much better value for money and you had plenty of cash spare for modifications.....especially if you got it for the price I did

Looks good, but not much to it.....
Old 09 June 2002, 06:27 PM
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According to the Puma Owners club of which I am stil a member

There were 500 built, all were sold.

Differences to standard Puma were - aluminium front, "beefed up" LOL wheel arches, even wider front and rear tracks with 17" spoke alloys.
Power was uprated to 153bhp and super stiff springs provided.

All very technical information but it is from the member's edition book which I got through the post a while back
Old 09 June 2002, 06:32 PM
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ok so in short: load of bollox...
Old 09 June 2002, 06:42 PM
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Not worth the £22 they were each sold for.
Old 09 June 2002, 07:43 PM
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I had a go in one, it was very good. No where near in Impreza league but a very good fun drivers car. Stiffened body shell, wider track and a bit more power over std Puma. Very much in Integra Type R mold, not as powerful but similar handling.

If it was £17/18k it would have been a hit, but at £23k it was a farce, and less than half of the 500 road cars were sold, most unsold cars were turned into F1600 puma rally cars on which they were based in the first place.

If you can find one at Puma +10% money - it's a worthy consideration.
Old 09 June 2002, 07:49 PM
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Not worth £23K maybe...

But now available for around £12-13K used, and falling..

I seriously considered buying one (now decided not to) but still like 'em. One of the bonniest looking cars on the road IMO.

Check out http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?threadid=93650&Page=1
Old 09 June 2002, 07:56 PM
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When you actually see it on the road, it isn't really that distinguishable from a std puma. It should be, the arches are as wide (comparatively) as a 22b over Sti, but the Pumas are just too smooth so it isn't really that noticable
Old 09 June 2002, 08:25 PM
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Have a look at this thread from a few weeks ago.

There are a few owners on there (one - FRP - that i know very well). Also look at http://www.fasterfords.com there is a section on the FRP there.

Dave
Old 09 June 2002, 09:24 PM
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Even at 23k ford still manage to make a loss on every one they built !
Old 09 June 2002, 11:52 PM
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Some parts are fliping expensive ,pads and discs etc
Old 10 June 2002, 03:03 PM
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I've seen them for £12k, and for that money they're fantastic. Handle waaaaay better than a scooby. Sorry guys, but understeer just isn't in its vocabulary. Almost got one myself, but at 6'3, it aint an option. Damn Ford and their small engineers! Every company should have a director like TVR's Peter Wheeler, 6'6 and designs all his cars to fit him. Genius!
Old 10 June 2002, 04:47 PM
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Youd be better with a late model Integra R with about 10k miles for that money

IMHO

Faster, brilliant handling, fantastic (NSX) brakes, honda build and reliability and THAT engine

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Old 10 June 2002, 05:36 PM
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i wasnt planning on getting one, just a friend was. I thought id heard that they were a really good rally specced car

yeah your right beefola, though im 6'4 i can get in most, i was surprised that the little tvrs have so much room

Old 11 June 2002, 03:54 PM
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A mate of well hungs has got one, seems Ok to me
Old 12 June 2002, 04:58 PM
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I take it back if you can get the brakes that cheap,I was told £124 for pads
Old 15 June 2002, 08:44 AM
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GaryC: Non of the cars were turned into F1600 rally cars and non of them were unsold. The FRP and F1600 share very little parts, only the brakes are the same.
3 of the F1600 pumas at last years pirelli rally in carlisle were originally racing pumas, and ford were quite public that they weren't all sold (or at least weren't sold through dealers at £23k dealer prices) Bit like the P1 but worse.
Old 15 June 2002, 06:59 PM
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The pads may be cheap, but the discs certainly are not, £180 each inc vat, therefore discs and pads on the front will be about £500 fitted!

Matt
Old 16 June 2002, 04:41 PM
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frp were did u get the pads from????
Well hung thinks the frp is alrite as he always seems 2 struggle
wen hes tryin 2 keep up with me in mine! lol
Old 16 June 2002, 07:25 PM
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YOZA seemed 2 struggle as well 2day!!!!!! lol
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my frp just gets better and better!!!!!!
the handling is superb!
Old 25 June 2002, 08:26 PM
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Anyone who thinks just because the straight line speed is slower then the car is crap needs to go in one. Best way to describe one is a go cart but with better handling, anyone who doesnt believe this should try and race one, myself and yoza both know this. On a straight the puma doesnt stand a chance but with the brakes and the suspension on a series of corners theres no comparison. Cheers Ad (MY 99 UK TURBO)
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At last, someone who sees how good they are.



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Understeer, brake fade, what's that then ???????
Old 06 September 2002, 05:39 PM
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nobody knows? cos they are supposed to be a match for the scoob

[Edited by InvisibleMan - 6/9/2002 5:39:57 PM]
Old 06 October 2002, 12:58 PM
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Pads are 43 quid including VAT, doesn't seem too bad to me.

GaryC: Non of the cars were turned into F1600 rally cars and non of them were unsold. The FRP and F1600 share very little parts, only the brakes are the same.



[Edited by FRP - 6/10/2002 4:34:28 PM]
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