Honda Civic Type-R 2015 First Drive Review
03 June 2015, 12:30 AM
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Honda Civic Type-R 2015 First Drive Review
So here's the first one
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/n...ive-2015-06-02
0 - 100 mph in 11.1
I think it is safe to say it is not a car for someone who goes for the understated look............
Looking forward to all the reviews and the test drive
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/n...ive-2015-06-02
0 - 100 mph in 11.1
I think it is safe to say it is not a car for someone who goes for the understated look............
Looking forward to all the reviews and the test drive
03 June 2015, 11:32 PM
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05 June 2015, 10:33 PM
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Looking back over the performance figures of yesteryear car icons demonstrate just how much the game has moved on. The new Honda CTR really moves the game on in terms of 0 - 100. It appears to be well within Golf R territory with regards to performance.
05 June 2015, 10:40 PM
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Unless it's wet, the Honda looks like it will be quicker.
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Nice interior, seats, 30 or 32K is a bit steep with the GT pack however. And the looks 
Vtec doesnt kick in until over 3K yo.
07 June 2015, 07:02 PM
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Sillyboy, sh1te in the twisties in real life on a typical bumpy english b-road is NOT comparable to a nice slick wide open racetrack. And as you said, especially in the wet.
Every manufacturer that has brought out a trick front LSD is specifically to get good times on the ring, so mugs like you believe they will be an as effective tool as an AWD car in the real world on normal roads.
Every manufacturer that has brought out a trick front LSD is specifically to get good times on the ring, so mugs like you believe they will be an as effective tool as an AWD car in the real world on normal roads.
07 June 2015, 07:42 PM
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I'll still have it off the lights up to 60mph with a 5.7 second 0-60 it's almost a second slower than my 11yr old Wagon and without AWD it's going to seriously struggle on anything but long smooth dry roads to make that up in the real world, I'd also like to see if that 0-100 time is consistently repeatable in the real world, I suspect not.
Styling is rather OTT for my taste, I'd feel as though I was driving a tarts handbag, especially if it was red.
Styling is rather OTT for my taste, I'd feel as though I was driving a tarts handbag, especially if it was red.
08 June 2015, 09:25 AM
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Sillyboy, sh1te in the twisties in real life on a typical bumpy english b-road is NOT comparable to a nice slick wide open racetrack. And as you said, especially in the wet.
Every manufacturer that has brought out a trick front LSD is specifically to get good times on the ring, so mugs like you believe they will be an as effective tool as an AWD car in the real world on normal roads.
Every manufacturer that has brought out a trick front LSD is specifically to get good times on the ring, so mugs like you believe they will be an as effective tool as an AWD car in the real world on normal roads.
08 June 2015, 09:48 AM
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I'm going to test drive the mongda soon anyway, so whether its better or not is undecided. I don't think i could live with its looks though.And either way I couldn't give a toss, only immature morons are worried whether one car is better than their own.
08 June 2015, 10:47 AM
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You have told us how much better your car is many times...
I actually like the new STI and I think many of the criticisms of it are just shallow BS (poor mpg; who cares? High emissions; so what?) - it has proper steering, looks good and had proper 4WD not some fuel saving pretend "solution" like all the others.
But when you throw non stop hissy fits then you're going to open yourself up to a bashing whatever you drive.
I actually like the new STI and I think many of the criticisms of it are just shallow BS (poor mpg; who cares? High emissions; so what?) - it has proper steering, looks good and had proper 4WD not some fuel saving pretend "solution" like all the others.
But when you throw non stop hissy fits then you're going to open yourself up to a bashing whatever you drive.
10 June 2015, 10:21 AM
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My Integra with its mechanical front LSD was faster point to point and more effective in the real world, on normal roads, in the bumpy twisties and pretty much anywhere else for that matter than my AWD MY99 turbo was. Wet or dry. And that's with the benefit of not just having tried them, but driven thousands of miles in both of them on some of the most demanding roads.
Yes, the Impreza was faster off the line (obviously) but once over 30 mph it was clear which was the better chassis.
Originally Posted by Ditchy
I'll still have it off the lights up to 60mph with a 5.7 second 0-60 it's almost a second slower than my 11yr old Wagon and without AWD it's going to seriously struggle on anything but long smooth dry roads to make that up in the real world, I'd also like to see if that 0-100 time is consistently repeatable in the real world, I suspect not.
Once rolling (ie real world) that 167 mph civic is going to be quite a bit faster than your 11 year old wagon
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10 June 2015, 11:52 AM
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You can apply as many jokey smileys as you want mate - you still contradicted yourself
Sold the integra years ago. Had it and the Scoob from new.
And no fanboy - just know a very good, balanced chassis when I drive one. Which, incidentally, is not something I'd apply to the vast majority of AWD cars I've driven, Subaru's included.
All this "AWD is much faster in the real world cr4p" is really just bluster. The real world is full of real world surprises - tractors, other vehicles, cyclists, etc, etc, etc. The only advantage it has is traction.
And only opportunities you get to drive any where near 10/10ths and with any kind of sanity are on the kind of more open sweeping roads where traction isn't going to be such an issue and the ability to carry speed through corners and along the straights is more important.
You want to demonstrate how much quicker you recon your AWD is on a bumpy, twisty, damp, public road by explioting that traction advantage to a meaningful degree - knock yourself out. You probably will when you hit something
You know as well as I do that the opportunities to do that are effectively non existant and the reality is that whever car is in front is going to stay there, and the gap would be insignificant given drivers of equal ability.
Ironically - the only place to properly demonstrate which is significantly faster in a head to head contest is on track. Oh, yeah, that would probably be you f*cked then.
"Real world twisties" is just as much pub talk as ring times are, and about as relevant
Sold the integra years ago. Had it and the Scoob from new.
And no fanboy - just know a very good, balanced chassis when I drive one. Which, incidentally, is not something I'd apply to the vast majority of AWD cars I've driven, Subaru's included.
All this "AWD is much faster in the real world cr4p" is really just bluster. The real world is full of real world surprises - tractors, other vehicles, cyclists, etc, etc, etc. The only advantage it has is traction.
And only opportunities you get to drive any where near 10/10ths and with any kind of sanity are on the kind of more open sweeping roads where traction isn't going to be such an issue and the ability to carry speed through corners and along the straights is more important.
You want to demonstrate how much quicker you recon your AWD is on a bumpy, twisty, damp, public road by explioting that traction advantage to a meaningful degree - knock yourself out. You probably will when you hit something
You know as well as I do that the opportunities to do that are effectively non existant and the reality is that whever car is in front is going to stay there, and the gap would be insignificant given drivers of equal ability.
Ironically - the only place to properly demonstrate which is significantly faster in a head to head contest is on track. Oh, yeah, that would probably be you f*cked then.
"Real world twisties" is just as much pub talk as ring times are, and about as relevant
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10 June 2015, 12:48 PM
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You can apply as many jokey smileys as you want mate - you still contradicted yourself
Sold the integra years ago. Had it and the Scoob from new.
And no fanboy - just know a very good, balanced chassis when I drive one. Which, incidentally, is not something I'd apply to the vast majority of AWD cars I've driven, Subaru's included.
All this "AWD is much faster in the real world cr4p" is really just bluster. The real world is full of real world surprises - tractors, other vehicles, cyclists, etc, etc, etc. The only advantage it has is traction.
And only opportunities you get to drive any where near 10/10ths and with any kind of sanity are on the kind of more open sweeping roads where traction isn't going to be such an issue and the ability to carry speed through corners and along the straights is more important.
You want to demonstrate how much quicker you recon your AWD is on a bumpy, twisty, damp, public road by explioting that traction advantage to a meaningful degree - knock yourself out. You probably will when you hit something
You know as well as I do that the opportunities to do that are effectively non existant and the reality is that whever car is in front is going to stay there, and the gap would be insignificant given drivers of equal ability.
Ironically - the only place to properly demonstrate which is significantly faster in a head to head contest is on track. Oh, yeah, that would probably be you f*cked then.
"Real world twisties" is just as much pub talk as ring times are, and about as relevant
Sold the integra years ago. Had it and the Scoob from new.
And no fanboy - just know a very good, balanced chassis when I drive one. Which, incidentally, is not something I'd apply to the vast majority of AWD cars I've driven, Subaru's included.
All this "AWD is much faster in the real world cr4p" is really just bluster. The real world is full of real world surprises - tractors, other vehicles, cyclists, etc, etc, etc. The only advantage it has is traction.
And only opportunities you get to drive any where near 10/10ths and with any kind of sanity are on the kind of more open sweeping roads where traction isn't going to be such an issue and the ability to carry speed through corners and along the straights is more important.
You want to demonstrate how much quicker you recon your AWD is on a bumpy, twisty, damp, public road by explioting that traction advantage to a meaningful degree - knock yourself out. You probably will when you hit something
You know as well as I do that the opportunities to do that are effectively non existant and the reality is that whever car is in front is going to stay there, and the gap would be insignificant given drivers of equal ability.
Ironically - the only place to properly demonstrate which is significantly faster in a head to head contest is on track. Oh, yeah, that would probably be you f*cked then.
"Real world twisties" is just as much pub talk as ring times are, and about as relevant
I salute you.
11 June 2015, 09:48 PM
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Yeah me too Mattee, the main negative all the reviews seem to mention is that it doesn't sound that special.
I'll take speed, traction, poise and handling over noise any day of the week
I'll take speed, traction, poise and handling over noise any day of the week
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