Dingdongler

510 BHP for the S model. I'm enjoying my 'old' C63 AMG with just 457 BHP, but another 50 BHP, more torque AND less weight should make for a very interesting car.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=30875

fawor

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+ coupe and 4 matic that will be interesting

f1_fan

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Looks very interesting indeed and at last it gets an LSD

Carnut

I wonder how long it will be before we see 4wd ones in the UK, not sure if I would actually wont a 4wd drive one but may not have a choice in the future.

ALi-B

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Do they still have 16 spark plugs?

(guess what menial job I've been doing today )


Just a shame they don't do a manual AWD option. It would make for an insane road weapon.

Karl_mac_

Think I still prefer the outgoing NA V8. Think that will go down as one of greatest engines of all time.

urban

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Did you have issues removing some of the 16 plugs?

ALi-B

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Not really - just a bit tight for space on the back cylinders. Two plugs per cylinder makes it twice the job.

Graz

Could be sorely tempted with the estate version of this one day. Wish BMW made an F10/11 M5 Tourer though.

P1Fanatic

Just not the same as the 6.2 V8 - that was pound for pound the best sounding engine as standard. Not keen on the looks either - seems more audi.

Not a massive hike in power as the outgoing C63 ended with the Section 507.

zip106

Preferring the look of the last one at the moment.

bighead

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Bmw's "M" division ...need to do some catching up quick !!!

Infected by sti

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I'd still have the jag xfrs over the Merc or a bm anyday, driven them all and find the jag one of the nicest places to be, and the v8 in them are pretty hardy lumps.

Not too harsh a ride on the big wheel with skinny tyre combo, everything is where it should be and within reach of the driver, nice comfy seats with the carbon leather and a load more to boot as standard options over the Merc and the BM.

Plus the added bonus of 550hp with similar torque output makes for a very rampant car.

Not everyone's cup of tea I suppose but if I was spending the amount of money these cars are I would seriously consider the jag, and the new XE version looks another nice addition.

ALi-B

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What I find funny about the xfr is as good a car that it is the steering is so devoid of feedback, just ruined it for me. Shame as the engine is awesome (would be even more awesome if had a proper manual gearbox option).

That, and the silly oversights like the fog lamp switch; I mean they spent so much time creating gimmicky/geeky/pointless air vents and gear selectors, then go and hide switches where you can't see them

f1_fan

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Someone brought an XFR to the last AMG day I was at and I was pretty taken with it. I have a soft spot for Jags, but even allowing for that it was a bloody nice car. Great engine and nicely put together. I have to admit it would be a hard choice between that and the C63.

Funny thread the other day on the MBClub forum, someone posted a question as to whether to buy a new F Type or a new SL.... bear in mind this was on a Merc forum.... the Jag won the day by about 75% of the vote Seems they are doing something right at Jaguar

scoobyboy1

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I just couldnt see myself driving/owning a Jag no matter how good it was, and yes you could call it badge snobbery(even for a Jag), must be a under 35 years old thing, Ive always seen Jags as a old mans car that my dad would drive, but saying that over the last few years they have been coming out with some stonking cars especially the R range cars, maybe as time goes on that image of a owning a Jag for the younger generation will change.

That new C63 S AMG to me is just stunning, If I come in to a large amount of money anytime soon id be straight down the Merc dealer in a heart beat to buy one, as it ticks everything that I would need in a car!!!

ScoobyJawa

Even AMG can't un-fugly the car!

Littleted

I'll have one when the 45 is due to be changed, but only if they do 4 matic..failing that God knows....

GONZO01

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I have been in some quick cars in my time and I must say the jag xfrs is up there with them all, for a big car that will comfortably seat 4 and as heavy as they are it fly's and after being In one for a spin I don't think there is much on the road that could beat it including the amg.