dnc

We have had the first UK prosecution for FGM.

I think this is a very 'sensitive' subject. Of course it is a big cultural tradition for many in Africa but f*** me it's horrific and young girls are forcibly 'cut', often held down by family members. I don't know what goes through parents' minds to get involved in this .

Any thoughts?

Edit: Seems I was guilty of reading the article too quickly before needing to disappear. The first UK prosecution is 'imminent'.

Blue by You

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Just the thought of such a barbaric practise turns my stomach.
The trouble is that the reasons for this cruelty are based on religion, superstition (same thing?), and tribal custom, so stopping it is going to be nigh on impossible.

warrenm2

HOW DARE YOU CRITICISE IT! It is diversity in action, which is good. You are just being racist.

There that's the lefty argument out of the way. In reality, its imported barbarism, and should be treated as GBH at the very least

tony de wonderful

Seems to get swept under the carpet.

RA Dunk

I think we all know which direction this is going to take and how it's going to end.

hodgy0_2

totally barbaric

lets lump in male genital mutilation into the mix too

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

To add to this, the BBC reported this morning that ONE IN FIVE UK police forces ignore, or do not treat seriously, so-called honour attacks against women

Well, we wanted diversity and cultural differences...we've got 'em!

And the sad thing for me is it's often women arguing that it's RIGHT what goes on.

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

Was going to say that - why isn't circumcision on young boys met with the same outrage?

hodgy0_2

yep, we will get all the usual cleaner, healthier bollox

fully understand that some medical circumstances demand it - my older brother had the procedure at 18

but 3 day old baby boys!!!!

RA Dunk

Male circumcision isn't really practice here, unless there is reason for it we remain at one with our Foreskins. I know in the likes of the USofA your foreskin is living in fear of the knife at a early age.

Saxo Boy

Nuke em'

tony de wonderful

It's not really the same. If it was like FGM it would be like losing your bell end.

Martin2005

Hopefully this case is the first of many prosecutions.

There's no place for this kind of horror in our country

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Bizarre Magazine?

Martin2005

eh?


Oh I see now. Yes that would seem to be right up their street

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

+1

And many of the medical reasons have been disproven too.

JTaylor

This. I understand the comparison, but without going in to too much detail these two practices have very different consequences.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

I hesitate to ask this, (yes, really!!), but how do the usual suspects on here reconcile NOT allowing this, with their usual stance on cultural and religious freedoms?

Leslie

I wonder what is the the justification for such an action.

Les

tony de wonderful

Well both would lead to loss of sensation in a big way.

Chip

Whoaaa Les, where have you been again?

AndyBaker

Hi Les

hawky666

I'm gonna sound like a complete tit here i know... but what exactly is it they do when they carry this out.
I know what circumcision is on boys.. but until this came up on the news, i had no idea about it.
It sound barbaric, whatever it is. And anything that involves a woman (or man) having their body tampered with without their full knowledge, understanding and ultimately PERMISSION, just has to be totally wrong.
That's about as much as i can comment without knowing the full facts i guess.

JTaylor

Yes, I know, I was agreeing with you that FGM and circumcision do not produce a comparable loss of sensation. As you say, the comparison would be having the male's glans ***** removed.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

http://www.forwarduk.org.uk/key-issues/fgm/definitions

Not a fun read!

Blue by You

iTrader: (23)

Man, that is grim reading.

hawky666

Jesus.. that's making me feel sick reading it.
How barbaric... and exactly what does anyone believe can be gained from causing such suffering.

hodgy0_2

But presumably you agree that both are genital mutilation, just the degree of sensation that is lost

JTaylor

Yes, it's self-evident, but I'd hesitate to refer to them both as genital mutilation as this implies they're comparable when they're not.

hodgy0_2

That may well be true, but both, as you say involve differing levels of butchery to a persons genitals

And as I held each of my newborn children, still hot and fresh from my wife's womb - I viewed both pactices as ancient barbaric tribal rituals that have no place in 21st century humanity