JDM_Stig

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...nvoy_Disaster/

Did anyone else watch this ?
I really enjoyed it, the story wasn't something I was familiar with and found it really interesting.

ScoobyWon't

The Admiralty really mucked that up.

I did enjoy the story of the chap with the little trawler.

dpb

Poor chap had tumor, shouldn't been there at all.

Good program, poor b'stards who were just waiting to get slaughtered

ChrisB

Watched it on iPlayer last night, thought it was a good programme.

Can recommend if people want to read more - Forgotten Sacrifice : The Arctic Convoys of WW II

stilover

I missed the first half, but thought the second half was fantastic.

Good story told so well by Clarkson. He's made a couple documentaries like this, and when he's not on Top Gear, he is a brilliant presenter. Same as James May.

Without Iplayer, does anyone know when this (if it is) getting repeated on TV?

riiidaa

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possibly it will get repeated in a few weeks, as the king of speed thing gets another airing next week.

Just man up and use iPlayer
PQ 17: An Arctic Convoy Disaster

dpb

That was the repeat!

riiidaa

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Was it? Blimey

riiidaa

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next on on the 18th at 02:55 so that'll probably be with sign language
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03n3297

dpb

First time was xmas, I missed it

the shreksta

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yeah i watched it and thought it was really interesting..............all fear the tirpitz

dpb

14" Armour plating..!
Can't even imagine how you'd work that sort chunk metal

riiidaa

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yes, other than British Lancaster bombers equipped with 12,000 pounds (5,400 kg)"Tallboy" bombs and with flight crews equipped with very large *****

the shreksta

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yep..............took em long enough tho

Jamie

It was great the first time they showed it

Tidgy

and how she ended up



shows how difficult it is to make a decsion when you have only part of the info, imagine if the tirpirz was lurking and he hadn't dispersed the convoy, damed if you do damed if you dont

BULLITT

I have to admit, Clarkson may come across as an utter **** on Top Gear but his War Stories series is fantastic! WWII being a big interest of mine I'm fascinated by these sort of stories and also bewildered at how a man with such poor health was allowed to remain in charge of the Navy during this sort of huge operation!

RA Dunk

Some of the people who went through this and are still alive must cringe when they see what modern day politicians have done to this country.

albob

Watched it before Christmas -- very good.

Clarkson did a similar prog a few years ago about Arnhem (a bridge too far) which was excellent.
Turned out his father-in-law (at the time.......!) was an Officer who was involved in the battle, and had never talked about it (to Clarkson)..

BULLITT

The Victoria Cross: For Valour - History of the Medal and the story of his father in law who was awarded the VC after his actions at Arnhem.

The Greatest Raid of All Time - The Commandos and the Raid on the dry dock in St. Nazaire.

riiidaa

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I remember this episode

The Trooper 1815

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Great BBC programme.

G.Mac

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Fantastic program, Its programs like this more of out TV license should be getting spent on rather than the tat that it is.

Thankful that I am in the MN now and not back then that's for sure!!!!

Alan Jeffery

The Tirpitz was certainly a threat, although not the one it was viewed as by the old brigade. The shock of losing so many huge capital ships to aircraft (Bismark ultimately for example) still hadn't affected strategic thinking. It took the Royal Navy some time to grasp that the days of the Battleship were over.
The Tirpitz was disabled long before it was finally sunk after a long campaign against it.

PS to the whole convoy story, arriving at Murmansk certainly wasn't the end of it. The Germans bombed them over there as well, sinking ships tied to the dock. Of course the Russians may have been "Allies", but for most who survived the passage it was a bit like finding yourself at the wrong end of the stadium when City are playing United..

Tidgy

very very common, my grandad was a prisoner of war at Auschwitz (pow and concentration camp were different camps at same location) and never spoke about it untill after my gran died a number of years back. What he describes is enough to make you physicly feel sick just hearing about it.

http://metro.co.uk/2010/01/27/living...schwitz-60421/

http://www.thejc.com/lifestyle/lifes...oned-auschwitz

And section 10 in this, Arthur is my grandad.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=J...ngland&f=false