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Old 06 January 2014, 12:11 PM
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Default Speed limit on M1 to 'reduce pollution'

Our beloved government are proposing to introduce a 60mph limit on the M1 between J28 and J35A to 'reduce pollution'!

60mph speed limit proposal for stretch of M1 motorway

So at a time when the police are advocating a rise in the outdated motorway limit the government are looking to reduce it and no doubt bring out some special fines for polluting the planet if you exceed the limit!
Old 06 January 2014, 12:16 PM
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You beat me to it !
Old 06 January 2014, 12:19 PM
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wtf? what a bunch of ******!
Old 06 January 2014, 12:30 PM
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It's not the government though is it, it's the EU driving this crap, along with all the other folly they come out with?
Old 06 January 2014, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
It's not the government though is it, it's the EU driving this crap, along with all the other folly they come out with?
Yes and no! No other country in the EU is proposing to lower their speed limits to meet the EU air quality targets ergo it's at least partly the government!
Old 06 January 2014, 12:37 PM
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whe china stops producing 60% of the worlds polution then we should look at it
Old 06 January 2014, 12:40 PM
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I only do 60 on the motorway anyway.
Old 06 January 2014, 01:12 PM
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I'd prefer it if they just bulldozed the affected areas surrounding the M1. Chesterfield and Sheffield are ****-holes anyway.

I'm not sure how reducing the speed will help anyway, if you go through at 70, your vehicle is there for a shorter time than if you drive though it at 60.
Old 06 January 2014, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
whe china stops producing 60% of the worlds polution then we should look at it
Where did you get that number from?
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes and no! No other country in the EU is proposing to lower their speed limits to meet the EU air quality targets ergo it's at least partly the government!
I thought this was driven by those grey boxes which you see sat at the sides of roads measuring air quality, and for whatever reason, that stretch of the M1 will fail or is failing to meet new or existing draconian limits set by the EU, and thus the only option the government has to try reduce those is to limit the traffic or reduce the speed limits.
Personally I don't see how it will make that much difference because I would have thought that most of the pollution is created when that stretch of the M1 is at a standstill each morning and each evening, when you'd be lucky to do 30mph. Is the area around Nottingham covered by this, as I would imagine that is a hotbed of nasty anti-eu pollutants? I can’t imagine the M25/M40/M4 area is compliant either?

So yes, whilst it’s our wonderful government, I wish they’d grow some and give a big fat middle finger to the EU, for exactly the same reason that the stakes have been raised in the electricity generating market, with Eggbrough now threating to close down if they don’t get a grant to pay for the conversation to burn wood chippings made from trees cut down in North America and shipped over here. If they close in 2015, that’s 4% of the UK’s generating capacity gone. I wonder who’ll blink first, and are our politicians really that stupid that they’ll continue to follow the EU agenda and allow blackouts to start?

http://www.selbyonline.co.uk/news/selby/865/865
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it makes no difference anyway,with the amount of road-works thats been going on on the m1 over the last decade its hard enough to get over 50 mph
Old 06 January 2014, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
whe china stops producing 60% of the worlds polution then we should look at it
We are basically farting against thunder when it comes to world pollution, if the rest of the world make little effort all our efforts are pointless. Mind you it's a pretty good way to make some extra cash for the government though.
Old 06 January 2014, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
So yes, whilst it’s our wonderful government, I wish they’d grow some and give a big fat middle finger to the EU, for exactly the same reason that the stakes have been raised in the electricity generating market, with Eggbrough now threating to close down if they don’t get a grant to pay for the conversation to burn wood chippings made from trees cut down in North America and shipped over here. If they close in 2015, that’s 4% of the UK’s generating capacity gone. I wonder who’ll blink first, and are our politicians really that stupid that they’ll continue to follow the EU agenda and allow blackouts to start?
Yes they are, sadly!
Old 06 January 2014, 07:32 PM
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It's fecking ridiculous, this is simply being done in a vain attempt to put people off driving, or to increase revenue from the speeding fines. If this really was for the environment then the limit should be lowered to 30mph or even better just close the M1 so no pollution/noise can occur (as said it would make no difference anyway) As a result all it will do is cause even more jams, EU coonts
Old 06 January 2014, 09:18 PM
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I can see it causing more accidents,frustration,or hazard between cars and trucks.its heading in the direction of speed limiters on cars..
Old 06 January 2014, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
I'd prefer it if they just bulldozed the affected areas surrounding the M1. Chesterfield and Sheffield are ****-holes anyway.


up yours fuking pr1ck
Old 06 January 2014, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BoozyDave


up yours fuking pr1ck
There's always one.
Old 06 January 2014, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
There's always one.
Old 06 January 2014, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BoozyDave


up yours fuking pr1ck
Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
There's always one.
you proved your point, also inhabited by ********
Old 06 January 2014, 11:15 PM
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would the next person who rolling roads a car please put up the emmissions at 60 and 70mph would love to know what the difference is
Old 07 January 2014, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Where did you get that number from?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
60% was a rough guess at what it works out at lol
Old 07 January 2014, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
I'd prefer it if they just bulldozed the affected areas surrounding the M1. Chesterfield and Sheffield are ****-holes anyway.
They should also bulldoze Scabland , better known as the whole of Nottinghamshire
Old 07 January 2014, 09:45 AM
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Chris Evans was waffling on about this earlier. Obviously he's a petrol head so is very much on the WTF is this about side of things, but did mention that a stretch of the M3 is also up for the same treatment.
It is related to EU ‘guidelines’ due to come in to force later this year.
Old 07 January 2014, 05:52 PM
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It's the thin end of a wedge I reckon. Will probably happen wherever a motorway passes through or near a built up area eventually.
Old 07 January 2014, 09:42 PM
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Reducing the speed limit will hopefully improve traffic flow, which will in turn reduce the amount of stop / start driving in that section. This they are hoping will lead to an improvement in air quality.

They probably got the idea after looking at the M25 widening traffic flow information - 50mph speed limit through multiple continuous miles, enforced by average speed cameras.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy

So it's actually 24% (or was at least in 2008)?

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