sprigeteer

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25529744

Interesting one this. I'm in the 'never did me any harm' camp. This Children's Tsar wants to criminalise any physical chatisement. Is there 'good' smacking and 'bad' smacking? Who knows? I suspect it will become law eventually.

SJ_Skyline

Another do-gooder who fails to see the difference between smacking and beating. She should **** off back under the stone she crawled from and carry on eating organic tofu in her wicker sandals keeping her holier than thou opinions to herself.

Today seems to be ripe for left wing stupidity:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-minister.html
Particularly nice retort from Rob Wilson

sprigeteer

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Holy $hit, that's such a stupid comment from this woman. How do these muppets do well in politics? Actually, I think I've just answered my own question.

cookstar

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"You only have to lift you hand once to a naughty child, after that you only have to lift your eyebrows"

From the comments page from the above article, there's a lot of truth in that statement.

cookstar

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Maybe she should try walking up or down a delayed train full of pi$$ heads on a Friday or Saturday night wearing a uniform. She might understand why a woman might not want to be a train driver...

For what it's worth you do see a lot more female freight train drivers these days.

hodgy0_2

I agree - ban smacking/beating children

If you have to smack your kids you are doing something wrong, sorry

Father of 5 who has never smacked any of my children

Shaid

I think there needs to be some perspective.

The odd smack for being a prat is acceptable however flying kicks and body slams should be a firm no no.

Tidgy

smacking yes, beating no.

Aaron1978

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It's no surprise that now there is no threat of a good old 'clip round the ear' be that by a parent/policeman or a teacher, that the younger generation have little/no respect for people or authority.

I'm also in the it never did me any harm camp.

JDM_Stig

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I agree, Once the rules in Schools changed you saw a total change to the way children rebelled, They know they cant be touched.

chocolate_o_brian

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Was it yourself who once said words to the effect "if you have to smack your kids to discipline them, you've already lost the battle"?

A rare occurrence but I totally agree with your sentiments.

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My son is two (3 in March) and I have never, nor never will smack him. A raised voice, taking away of toys and 'the look' has been quite sufficient so far in my first shot at parenting.

I simply cannot get my head around a fully grown man/woman striking a child who is smaller, lighter and much more mentally immature than them. Regardless of their relationship or the usual excuses of 'it did me no harm'.

Unfortunately my opinion is maybe skewered because I was regularly beaten pretty bad (hospitalised etc) as a child.

It's probably one of only a couple Conservative political ideas I don't agree with.

RA Dunk

Yup, I often got a good belting at school only to go home and get another one for getting one at school!

It put me in my place 'for a while' before I started playing up again, only to be brought back down.

Different kids react differently to different situations. You could talk to me till you were blue in the face, a smack was the only thing that would sort me out.

hodgy0_2

Yes - and to all of you in the "didn't do me any harm camp"


Yes it did - it taught you hitting children is ok


It isn't ok

53

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Dead legs FTW

RA Dunk

Says who? you?

Who's to say all kids will learn from someone pointing a finger at them or given them a stern look, kids are different.

Like I just said, you could have gave me stern looks and pointed fingers at me all day, you would have lost.

Worlasshasansti

I got the odd clip off my dad.

It didn't do me any harm?

I don't have kids but I don't think its ok to go around hitting children so maybe you're wrong.

I do like to spank the monkey though.

Mick

stonejedi

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Being a father myself I always talk to my children first and if they don't listen then some form of discipline will be administered to correct there bad behaviour,what needs to be taken into proportion is the term smacking it's not as if a smack should be comparable with a beating with a piece of 2x4 and it should not be put in the same category as a little smack on the bum.SJ.

GC8

Thats always been illegal!

Still it didnt stop the science master at my boarding school...

Worlasshasansti

My old man used to start taking his belt off, it kept me fit and I always did Really well at the running event on sports day.

Mick

neil-h

Surely it's a case of context. Give a child a good punch for something trivial is wrong, a quick slap on the wrist to stop them doing something that may cause them more serious damage. Not so much.

cookstar

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At the end of the day I believe you have the right to bring your children up how you see fit as parents, obviously within reason. I wouldn't have the arrogance to declare my way as the only way, and other differing ways wrong.

SJ_Skyline

Spot on

ScoobyWon't

There's no bad behaviour that can't be cured by a little water-boarding.

chocolate_o_brian

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One thing I find deeply saddening and highly distressing is when you see a parent in public belting their small child. I'm talking 2-3-4 years old, a real wallop, which they obviously think is within reason. And it's not just the scum class either.

Type_R_1984

Discipline is what's lacking these days. I was disciplined heavily and it did me no harm, it made me grow up and respect my elders etc. abuse on the other hand is something else.

gazney101

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My thoughts exactly

CharlySkunkWeed

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You know when you see those kids at the shops throwing a proper tantrum , stamping feet , screaming till they turn red in the face etc. ?

My daughter only ever did it the once. She got a smack and a telling off. From that day on I never raised a hand to her , as she knew what was comming. Sure I was the "bad cop" between me and my wife from then on , but my daughter is 16 now and as good as gold . . . . .and knows when I am disappointed .

I think that it works for some , but not others. See friends kids getting told off with no success , if anything the kids feed off it ! And everyone is thinking the same thing . . .they need a good slap.

cster

I've never had cause to smack my children, but if other people want to smack theirs, I'm not that bothered.
It does seem a little odd to me, but there are many variables at play here. Cultural, the children themselves, the environment they are in and so-on.

chocolate_o_brian

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Where would you draw the line at 'disciplined heavily'?

Example being I was at school well after the cane (thank god) but had respect for the teachers etc. He'll I even feared a few just down to their demeanour

neil-h

The problem these days with teachers is there are far to many of the 'softly softly' school of teaching, not enough of the old breed. I had a teacher in secondary school who'd manage to build such a reputation that no one would cross her and that was 10 years ago. So no cane or other physical punishment, simply the right personality and the right attitude that just commanded respect.