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Old 17 December 2013, 08:52 PM
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Default tell me about the moon... it might be a silly question.. but...

how come the moon is lit up/bright?


If we're at night its cus the sun is on the other side of the world.. I get that bit :doh:

so if the earth casts a shadow from the sun.. how come the moon isn't in the same shadow created from the earth's shadow???



Am I being really think?



I just had this brain wave question about it driving home after seeing how brightthe moon looked in a clear sky
Old 17 December 2013, 09:03 PM
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It's all to do with the atmospherical condition of the plutonium sulphate, as they say on Star Trek.
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
how come the moon is lit up/bright?


If we're at night its cus the sun is on the other side of the world.. I get that bit :doh:

so if the earth casts a shadow from the sun.. how come the moon isn't in the same shadow created from the earth's shadow???



Am I being really think?



I just had this brain wave question about it driving home after seeing how brightthe moon looked in a clear sky

That would be a Lunar eclipse I believe.
Old 17 December 2013, 09:13 PM
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I know.. why is it not like that all the time then?

lol
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Perhaps rather bizarrely, the Moon is actually very dark, and it doesn’t glow for the reasons you might think. The ancients thought that the Moon produced its own light, but we now know definitively that this is not the case. Rather, our Moon reflects the light of the Sun in accordance with its orbit.

The entire Moon does not constantly reflect light – only the half in direct view of the Sun. As the Moon is tidally locked to the Earth (ie we only ever see one face), our view of the lit half changes constantly, ranging from a disc to a thin crescent. On a full Moon, the Sun is directly lined up with the Earth-Moon line; when we see a thin crescent, on the other hand, the Sun is illuminating just the side. However, the Moon does not reflect light quite like a mirror, although it is similar. All objects in space have an albedo, which is a measure of how well they reflect light. To give you an idea of how this works, material like ice has a high albedo, whereas soil has a low albedo.

However, the Moon’s albedo is actually very low – similar to that of coal. Its bright glow is instead the result of something called the opposition effect. You may have come across this when seeing a car’s headlights shine on a dark road: the road appears brighter than it would if light were not incident upon it. The Sun plays the part of the headlight in this case, directly shining on the Moon and leading to its bright glow. The large amount of debris on the surface of the Moon also contributes to its reflectivity.
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thank you.. I get it now.
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Which moon do you mean....?
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Which moon do you mean....?
You been on the mushrooms? how many moons are there in your world?
Old 17 December 2013, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
You been on the mushrooms? how many moons are there in your world?


As for the moon, its round and made of cheese
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Pink Floyd found a dark side....
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
how come the moon is lit up/bright?

I just had this brain wave question about it driving home after seeing how brightthe moon looked in a clear sky
It's because you washed the windows of your car, so now everything looks clearer.
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Originally Posted by zip106
Pink Floyd found a dark side....
and The Waterboys saw the whole of it!
Old 17 December 2013, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
and The Waterboys saw the whole of it!
But they reached too high, too far, too soon...
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
But they reached too high, too far, too soon...
I actually read that to the tune.
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I went with mr Spoon to button moon
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
I actually read that to the tune.
So did I!
Old 18 December 2013, 07:56 AM
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Did anyone see the sun set last night at about 4:30? The sun looked incredible and I thought that this thread was actually going to be something relating to the sun. You could stare right at it because it was a very clear orange colour. I don't think I've ever seen it as well as I did last night.
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
Did anyone see the sun set last night at about 4:30? The sun looked incredible and I thought that this thread was actually going to be something relating to the sun. You could stare right at it because it was a very clear orange colour. I don't think I've ever seen it as well as I did last night.
Winter solstice on Saturday,sun at its lowest in the sky.Also meant to be able to see Jupiter in the east late tonight.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
You been on the mushrooms? how many moons are there in your world?


Mr Fry is always right.....
Old 18 December 2013, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DYK
Winter solstice on Saturday,sun at its lowest in the sky.Also meant to be able to see Jupiter in the east late tonight.
Yes and then only another couple of weeks before the mornings start getting lighter earlier.... thank goodness!
Old 18 December 2013, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
This is the very same episode that went thorough my mind as I read the thread, glad you put it up.....
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Originally Posted by DYK
I went with mr Spoon to button moon
So did I...many, many times.............
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Perhaps rather bizarrely, the Moon is actually very dark, and it doesn’t glow for the reasons you might think. The ancients thought that the Moon produced its own light, but we now know definitively that this is not the case. Rather, our Moon reflects the light of the Sun in accordance with its orbit.

The entire Moon does not constantly reflect light – only the half in direct view of the Sun. As the Moon is tidally locked to the Earth (ie we only ever see one face), our view of the lit half changes constantly, ranging from a disc to a thin crescent. On a full Moon, the Sun is directly lined up with the Earth-Moon line; when we see a thin crescent, on the other hand, the Sun is illuminating just the side. However, the Moon does not reflect light quite like a mirror, although it is similar. All objects in space have an albedo, which is a measure of how well they reflect light. To give you an idea of how this works, material like ice has a high albedo, whereas soil has a low albedo.

However, the Moon’s albedo is actually very low – similar to that of coal. Its bright glow is instead the result of something called the opposition effect. You may have come across this when seeing a car’s headlights shine on a dark road: the road appears brighter than it would if light were not incident upon it. The Sun plays the part of the headlight in this case, directly shining on the Moon and leading to its bright glow. The large amount of debris on the surface of the Moon also contributes to its reflectivity.
I like "The Dark Side Of The Moon" and the "River".

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Originally Posted by Felix.
Which moon do you mean....?

that's no moon, that's a space station,,,,,,


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Originally Posted by Tidgy
that's no moon, that's a space station,,,,,,


Its a very silly space station:

Tractor beam controls put in the most inaccessible position
Keep banging your head on doors
Loads of storm troopers marching round doing what......
You need to move out of the way of a planet before you blow your target up
Very dull grey paint work
and a thermal exhaust port right below the main one......
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Its a very silly space station:

Tractor beam controls put in the most inaccessible position
Keep banging your head on doors
Loads of storm troopers marching round doing what......
You need to move out of the way of a planet before you blow your target up
Very dull grey paint work
and a thermal exhaust port right below the main one......
I guess you have seen the film once or twice....
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
Did anyone see the sun set last night at about 4:30? The sun looked incredible and I thought that this thread was actually going to be something relating to the sun. You could stare right at it because it was a very clear orange colour. I don't think I've ever seen it as well as I did last night.
This was the sun setting on Sunday afternoon - I was at the rugby..
Was a stunning sky.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps59ebc08c.jpg
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Originally Posted by Tidgy
that's no moon, that's a space station,,,,,,


Its a very silly space station:

Tractor beam controls put in the most inaccessible position
Keep banging your head on doors
Loads of storm troopers marching round doing what......
You need to move out of the way of a planet before you blow your target up
Very dull grey paint work
and a thermal exhaust port right below the main one......

Well now I'm really disappointed by myself I genuinely didn't get that reference untill i read Felix's post.
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Originally Posted by zip106
This was the sun setting on Sunday afternoon - I was at the rugby..
Was a stunning sky.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps59ebc08c.jpg
That is an awesome photo. It didn't look as good as that where I was, but the sun itself was really low and you could stare right at it because it was such a clear mild-glow orange colour.
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Taken with a bog standard iPhone.
The sky was like that for several evenings, and I know what you mean about the sun - it's been stunning.


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