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Old 10 September 2013, 01:44 PM
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Maybe the message would spread to other countries surrounding as well
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torture followed by a slow death for what they did to that poor girl. whatever goes through these people minds is crazy!!!!
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I will be surprised if they get away with it. The whole of India is asking for their execution.

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Originally Posted by dpb
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Maybe the message would spread to other countries surrounding as well

Should the message spread as far as the UK? Or do you just want hanging as a form of punishment in other countries?
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I think that we should have the death penalty available in this country for positively defined offences.

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Old 10 September 2013, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Should the message spread as far as the UK? Or do you just want hanging as a form of punishment in other countries?
I could be wrong, but I imagine the OP might be referring to this when he says 'spread to neighbouring countries'.

Seems like the whole 'no means no' concept doesn't count for a lot in much of the Southern hemisphere

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Old 10 September 2013, 06:08 PM
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Because nobody has ever been wrongly accused, and then found guilty of rape, right?
Old 10 September 2013, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I think that we should have the death penalty available in this country for positively defined offences.

Les
"Positively defined?"

What would you mean by that Les?

Two further questions:
1. Would YOU be happy to carry out executions?
2. Would you trust the police, the cps, and the government to get it right? Right enough to end someone's life?
Old 10 September 2013, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
I could be wrong, but I imagine the OP might be referring to this when he says 'spread to neighbouring countries'.

Seems like the whole 'no means no' concept doesn't count for a lot in much of the Southern hemisphere
Hopefully it will spread as far as Yemen then.

http://www.examiner.com/article/yeme...-wedding-night
Old 10 September 2013, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
"Positively defined?"

What would you mean by that Les?

Two further questions:
1. Would YOU be happy to carry out executions?
2. Would you trust the police, the cps, and the government to get it right? Right enough to end someone's life?
If the evidence is overwhelming then yes I guess the government should be trusted, it's not as though they don't have any experiance at it is it?
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Nope, experience like the Birmingham six, or the Guildford four, you mean?
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Fortunately mistakes are never made.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-23968896
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Nope, experience like the Birmingham six, or the Guildford four, you mean?
I personally think the likes of the Guilford four were always going to be found guilty, just for the sake of seeing someone going to jail TBH.

But there are cases when there is evidence that proves guilt.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Hopefully it will spread as far as Yemen then.

http://www.examiner.com/article/yeme...-wedding-night

Forget the Yemen mate. This country has enough paedophiles, whether it be your average Joe, the Catholic Church or so called celebrities like Gary Glitter, Jimmy Saville, Stuart Hall etc

Why don't we hang them before we worry about what's going on half way around the world?
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Which is my point: THEY were all found guilty on the evidence, and would have hanged.

You can always let someone out of prison, or even pay him compensation, but you CANNOT give him his life back if you have executed him

I, personally, could NOT trust the authorities not to abuse this.
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Before this case am i right in thinking rape was the norm over there?
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Forget the Yemen mate. This country has enough paedophiles, whether it be your average Joe, the Catholic Church or so called celebrities like Gary Glitter, Jimmy Saville, Stuart Hall etc

Why don't we hang them before we worry about what's going on half way around the world?
Agreed, the thing over there is it's legal to be a Paedo.
Old 11 September 2013, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Agreed, the thing over there is it's legal to be a Paedo.

Sure, but before we worry too much about what goes on half way around the world shouldn't we get our own house in order?
Old 11 September 2013, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Should the message spread as far as the UK? Or do you just want hanging as a form of punishment in other countries?
We don't have the sort of culture where women wearing the wrong kind of clothing and out at the wrong time of night in the wrong place is provocation enough to allow rape followed by murder
Old 11 September 2013, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
Before this case am i right in thinking rape was the norm over there?


bloody hope not.

bottom line in every country including the uk, hardly ever get prosecuted or if jailed are out for a serious (or miner) offences quicker than you can eat your dinner. Unlike the likes of Dubai/Malaysia these countires take criminality serious which is what other countries should follow.
Old 11 September 2013, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
We don't have the sort of culture where women wearing the wrong kind of clothing and out at the wrong time of night in the wrong place is provocation enough to allow rape followed by murder


I think I get what you are trying to say but it doesn't really make sense.

If we are talking about India, then no matter what time of night a woman is out I'm pretty sure the law does not actually 'allow rape followed by murder' as you put it. The police force there is not going to be as good as the UK, and on the whole it is of course a more sexist country.

However to suggest that any woman who walks down the street in India in a skirt after 8pm is 'allowed to the raped' is pure nonsense.

As I said don't worry about what's going on in countries I assume you've never visited. Worry about what goes on right on your door step ie endless children (as young as 18 months) raped and molested by school teachers, priests, and so called celebrities.

It may well be against the law to do that in this country but is it really? What do you get if you are found with obscene images of children on your PC? A slap on the wrist usually, so what message does that send?

And then look at our 'culture' where many city centres are full at the weekend of girls of 12,13,14 etc in tiny skirts so drunk that they can't stand up.

Why do we have the one of the highest rates of teenage pregnancies in the western world? What does that say about our culture?

It's very easy to point the fingers at others, but as I said let's worry about the depravity that's going on in our own country first
Old 11 September 2013, 11:20 AM
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Unfortunately peadophilia is liable to be around for ever I'm afraid god forbid not tacitly allowed by organizations like the BBC.
Subjugation of women hopefully not
Old 11 September 2013, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
I think I get what you are trying to say but it doesn't really make sense.

If we are talking about India, then no matter what time of night a woman is out I'm pretty sure the law does not actually 'allow rape followed by murder' as you put it. The police force there is not going to be as good as the UK, and on the whole it is of course a more sexist country.

However to suggest that any woman who walks down the street in India in a skirt after 8pm is 'allowed to the raped' is pure nonsense.

As I said don't worry about what's going on in countries I assume you've never visited. Worry about what goes on right on your door step ie endless children (as young as 18 months) raped and molested by school teachers, priests, and so called celebrities.

It may well be against the law to do that in this country but is it really? What do you get if you are found with obscene images of children on your PC? A slap on the wrist usually, so what message does that send?

And then look at our 'culture' where many city centres are full at the weekend of girls of 12,13,14 etc in tiny skirts so drunk that they can't stand up.

Why do we have the one of the highest rates of teenage pregnancies in the western world? What does that say about our culture?

It's very easy to point the fingers at others, but as I said let's worry about the depravity that's going on in our own country first
Just curious, but if a survey similar to the one I pointed out in my link was carried out in this country, what proportion of males do you think would admit to having forced a woman to have sex at least once in their lives? 1 in 1000? 1 in 100? 1 in 10? Or closer to the 1 in 5 scored in my link?

Bearing in mind of course that the respondents in that survey were all interviewed anonymously, and were taking part voluntarily
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Originally Posted by alcazar
"Positively defined?"

What would you mean by that Les?

Two further questions:
1. Would YOU be happy to carry out executions?
2. Would you trust the police, the cps, and the government to get it right? Right enough to end someone's life?
The answer to the first bit is obvious, and yes to the rest of it.

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Originally Posted by Leslie
The answer to the first bit is obvious, and yes to the rest of it.

Les
+1. I wouldn't bat an eyelid flicking the switch on someone like Fred and Rose West, Huntley etc..
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