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Old 14 August 2013, 03:46 AM
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How this barking mad collection of do-gooders are still around I don't know. Their latest wheeze? Don't imprison people for property theft, even repeat offenders! So someone repeatedly nicks your car and get community service? The sooner they are laughed and derided into oblivion the better.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23686277
Old 14 August 2013, 06:58 AM
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Yeah, but they mean well
Old 14 August 2013, 08:13 AM
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I wonder how he would feel if he was a victim of violent burglary and had possessions and vehicle stolen?
Old 14 August 2013, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldun
I wonder how he would feel if he was a victim of violent burglary and had possessions and vehicle stolen?
Please please reread the article, in his view violence still requires a custodial sentence

What he seems to be arguing for, rightly or wrongly, is a refocusing of the justice system to the needs of the victim rather than a the "simpler" (as he would undoubtedly see it) solution of banging up the perpetrator
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Property is crime?
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Property is theft
Old 14 August 2013, 12:33 PM
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LOL. A mate of mine just commented:

On my bucket list:

Burgle the premises of the Howard League for Penal reform.
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Property is theft
That's the one!
I guess the real question is - Is theft a crime?

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