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Old 08 July 2013, 01:23 PM
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Now devalued to the point of irrelevance, if, that is, winning a game of tennis or a bicycle race is sufficient to deserve one.

Cameron is proving to be even more of a w*nker than B-liar.

Even the tennis player himself said he didn't think it was worth that.

I'd better have one too, as I fixed someone's toilet this morning.

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Old 08 July 2013, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Osimabu
Now devalued to the point of irrelevance, if, that is, winning a game of tennis or a bicycle race is sufficient to deserve one.

Cameron is proving to be even more of a w*nker than B-liar.

Even the tennis player himself said he didn't think it was worth that.

I'd better have one too, as I fixed someone's toilet this morning.
I am starting to really warm to Murray, his statement that he doesn't know if it merits a knighthood is spot on. He has conducted himself brilliantly all throughout Wimbledon and the pressure on him must have been immense!

Cameron is a laughing stock to be frank. Why doesn't he get on with doing some of the important things he keeps sayng he is going to do like implemneting Leveson like he promised!!!!

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Old 08 July 2013, 01:26 PM
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At least with Blair you knew you would get your knighthood for a £1m donation to his party!
Old 08 July 2013, 01:26 PM
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You could be making a stool of yourself
Old 08 July 2013, 02:04 PM
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Possibly Cameron is keen to make Murray as 'British' as possible by bestowing a British honour, prior to the Scottish referendum, who knows!

Regardless, any titles should be made after his career, not while he's still playing. Seems a bit knee-jerk to do so straight after he wins Wimbledon, it needs to be a reflection of his whole career which is far from over, not just this one tournament.

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Old 08 July 2013, 02:11 PM
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Whatever happens, Murray deserves the highest praise fo his achievenent.

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Old 08 July 2013, 03:34 PM
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People shouldn't get a knighthood for one event. Maybe when he is 50 and won several games then yes.

A knighthood is an honour. Earned effortlessly but by working hard throughout your life.

If he gets one then I want one for flushing my last turd rather then saving water and leaving it for the world to see.
Old 08 July 2013, 03:51 PM
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Cameron jumping on the bandwagon as usual saying what he thinks people want to hear rather than doing things people want done.
Old 08 July 2013, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
Cameron jumping on the bandwagon as usual saying what he thinks people want to hear rather than doing things people want done.
What???
A politician doing that???

Surely not
Old 08 July 2013, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
What???
A politician doing that???

Surely not

agreed but some are not as blatant in doing it as this bellend.
Old 08 July 2013, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Osimabu
Now devalued to the point of irrelevance, if, that is, winning a game of tennis or a bicycle race is sufficient to deserve one.

Cameron is proving to be even more of a w*nker than B-liar.

Even the tennis player himself said he didn't think it was worth that.

I'd better have one too, as I fixed someone's toilet this morning.
Wait till Beckham get's one .............They should have stopped at Sir Lancelot.
Old 08 July 2013, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Wait till Beckham get's one .............They should have stopped at Sir Lancelot.

speaking of beckham.
murray mentioned in an interview this morning beckham rang him to congratulate him.

anyone would think beckham was royalty or someone important....
Old 08 July 2013, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
speaking of beckham.
murray mentioned in an interview this morning beckham rang him to congratulate him.

anyone would think beckham was royalty or someone important....
Simon Fuller.

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Originally Posted by paulr
Simon Fuller.

surprised lewis Hamilton wasn't on hold then
Old 08 July 2013, 04:39 PM
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Sir Steve Redgrave, the rest (mostly) don't deserve them.

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Old 09 July 2013, 07:33 AM
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Chris Hoy deserves his - he's been winning for years.
A lot of sports people also work tirelessly for charities, like Redgrave, so the awards aren't just for sporting achievements.

I have an 80 year old customer who for the past 40 years has raised £6m for NSPCC, all unpaid, and it took over her life.
It took 35 years for her achievements to be recognised and to be 'given' an MBE.

These are the people that should be getting them (I know they do, we just don't hear about them).
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Wiggens should never been given this early either!
Old 09 July 2013, 09:28 PM
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he chose to play tennis as a career, he's good at it and well done for winning,

but a knighthood WTF

with wiggo getting one last year too, all it does is 'devalue' the title (if thats the correct terminology)

sports people should donimate throughout their career, Redgrave and Hoy are fine examples. but what about steve davis, hendry and ronnie with snooker? they all dominated the sport for years, but no knighthood

one should be 'earned' through lifelong achievements, not just winning a big title
Old 09 July 2013, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by boozydave
he chose to play tennis as a career, he's good at it and well done for winning,

but a knighthood WTF

with wiggo getting one last year too, all it does is 'devalue' the title (if thats the correct terminology)

sports people should donimate throughout their career, Redgrave and Hoy are fine examples. but what about steve davis, hendry and ronnie with snooker? they all dominated the sport for years, but no knighthood

one should be 'earned' through lifelong achievements, not just winning a big title
PMSL!!!!!!!!!!
Since when has Snooker been a sport
Old 09 July 2013, 09:41 PM
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If you're into motorbike racing, John McGuinness really ought to have been honoured by now for his 20 TT wins. He risks his life every time he goes out on the bike and has been at the top of his game for over 15 years, but seems to be constantly overlooked come the honours.
Old 09 July 2013, 09:55 PM
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It's crap. Sport has been erected into this popular national muscularism to please the sheeple.
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Well I disagree, he's the first Brit to win OUR biggest sporting event and the worlds most prestigious tennis tournament in 77 years.

Personally I think he should be honoured it's a massive achievement which no one else has managed to achieve in most of our life times and indeed our grand parents life times.

Fair play to the lad, they should make him the King of Scotland.

Far too many haters on here.
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These honours are pretty pointless IMO, so handing them out *****-nilly to please the masses makes perfect sense.
When Elton John received the highest of chivalric honours, the jig was up.
Old 11 July 2013, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Well I disagree, he's the first Brit to win OUR biggest sporting event and the worlds most prestigious tennis tournament in 77 years.

Personally I think he should be honoured it's a massive achievement which no one else has managed to achieve in most of our life times and indeed our grand parents life times.

Fair play to the lad, they should make him the King of Scotland.

Far too many haters on here.
I see your point mate but surely these honours should reflect bravery, altruism and sacrifice for others. Tennis is like many others sports a singularly selfish pursuit. I don't mean to denigrate Murray's immense achievement but he was doing it for himself and himself alone. His rewards for his success have been plentiful and he garners much adulation and respect from his fans and the media alike. Bestowing a title/honour for a sporting achievement devalues the prestige of these honours. In my opinion they should only be given to individuals who display selfless dedication to others, and those who show great bravery and moral fibre when performing altruistic acts. Highly paid sports stars and entertainers shouldn't qualify.
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I agree that he's done it for himself, but it does take a great deal of dedication and and single mindedness to achieve what he has, with the total lack of decent role models the bestowing of an honour like this at least shows others who may follow in his footsteps that there is more to be gained than pounds, shillings and pence.

I'm again not sure of the rights and wrongs of it, but an achievement of this magnitude certainly warrants an equally high award, whether it's the correct award is another matter, better than making him a don of oxford, I suppose they could have made him a freeman of the city of london and given him the key, which would have been hilarious considering his lineage.
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Shouting about the fact that he reckons Murray deserves a knighthood as soon as the match result was known is the action of a right plonker!

That is the sort of thing that should be considered after the dust has settled especially by someone in his position.

Les
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Well I disagree, he's the first Brit to win OUR biggest sporting event and the worlds most prestigious tennis tournament in 77 years.
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
And she's an OBE, which is more than enough.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster

Fair play to the lad, they should make him the King of Scotland.




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