Employers annual shutdown
04 February 2013, 08:30 PM
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Employers annual shutdown
Just after some advice as I can't get a clear answer on this at the moment.
My employer has announced that they are going to have 2 annual shutdowns this year, 5 days in May, 5 days in August and what would have been 3 days over Christmas is now 5 days.
So that's 15 days when people who have been working here less than 3 years only get 20 days holiday !
Also, we used to be allowed to take unpaid leave if we had used up all of our holidays and wanted/needed time off but they have now stopped that aswell !
Can they do this ?
My employer has announced that they are going to have 2 annual shutdowns this year, 5 days in May, 5 days in August and what would have been 3 days over Christmas is now 5 days.
So that's 15 days when people who have been working here less than 3 years only get 20 days holiday !
Also, we used to be allowed to take unpaid leave if we had used up all of our holidays and wanted/needed time off but they have now stopped that aswell !
Can they do this ?
04 February 2013, 08:34 PM
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i work for a well know union and you would have to check your contract but usually they can.
as long as they give you reasonable notice they can tell you when to take your holidays.
you are entitled to paid holiday and they can generally dictate when you have it to account for busy periods and shutdowns which in this case is the latter.
they are only entitled to give you time off i.e. holidays that are agreed in your contract i.e. 25 days or whatever any extra like unpaid days is usually at there discretion.
as long as they give you reasonable notice they can tell you when to take your holidays.
you are entitled to paid holiday and they can generally dictate when you have it to account for busy periods and shutdowns which in this case is the latter.
they are only entitled to give you time off i.e. holidays that are agreed in your contract i.e. 25 days or whatever any extra like unpaid days is usually at there discretion.
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04 February 2013, 08:37 PM
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i work for a well know union and you would have to check your contract but usually they can.
as long as they give you reasonable notice they can tell you when to take your holidays.
you are entitled to paid holiday and they can generally dictate when you have it to account for busy periods and shutdowns which in this case is the latter.
as long as they give you reasonable notice they can tell you when to take your holidays.
you are entitled to paid holiday and they can generally dictate when you have it to account for busy periods and shutdowns which in this case is the latter.
I got the impression that this was the case but just wanted someone knowledgeable to clarify it
04 February 2013, 08:42 PM
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If you work a full time role then holidays are now 28 days - afaik anyway!
This excludes any bank holidays though, which some employers used to include but exclude from holiday entitlement.
As for shut downs, it should be either in your contract - or you should be given "reasonable notice" which is 2 x the length of shut down.
There also has to be a good reason for the shut down.
As for unpaid leave, if thats not in your contract then no. If it is - then it is.
This excludes any bank holidays though, which some employers used to include but exclude from holiday entitlement.
As for shut downs, it should be either in your contract - or you should be given "reasonable notice" which is 2 x the length of shut down.
There also has to be a good reason for the shut down.
As for unpaid leave, if thats not in your contract then no. If it is - then it is.
04 February 2013, 08:48 PM
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If you work a full time role then holidays are now 28 days - afaik anyway!
This excludes any bank holidays though, which some employers used to include but exclude from holiday entitlement.
As for shut downs, it should be either in your contract - or you should be given "reasonable notice" which is 2 x the length of shut down.
There also has to be a good reason for the shut down.
As for unpaid leave, if thats not in your contract then no. If it is - then it is.
This excludes any bank holidays though, which some employers used to include but exclude from holiday entitlement.
As for shut downs, it should be either in your contract - or you should be given "reasonable notice" which is 2 x the length of shut down.
There also has to be a good reason for the shut down.
As for unpaid leave, if thats not in your contract then no. If it is - then it is.
Reason for shutdowns is my employer wants time off from work and wants to shut the place down rather than worrying about it while he's on holiday !
Unpaid leave was never in contract but was always allowed if needed.
04 February 2013, 09:06 PM
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Legal Minimum is 28 Days - INCLUDING all Bank Holidays.
I would hate to be told when I can take my leave - I get 41.5 Days and can take it when I like ..... except for the 3 Days at Xmas.
I would hate to be told when I can take my leave - I get 41.5 Days and can take it when I like ..... except for the 3 Days at Xmas.
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Lots have things have changed recently though
04 February 2013, 09:11 PM
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but in your case a factory shutdown is a reasonable reason for your holiday situation.
as for the unpaid leave, ive not heard many companies that do this anyway.
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way of the world at the moment mate, recession and cheap foreign labour has contributed to employers treating staff poorly.
but in your case a factory shutdown is a reasonable reason for your holiday situation.
as for the unpaid leave, ive not heard many companies that do this anyway.
but in your case a factory shutdown is a reasonable reason for your holiday situation.
as for the unpaid leave, ive not heard many companies that do this anyway.
As much as I'm not happy with the situation I'm just going to get on with it. I just wanted to know whether it was legal or not which it clearly is.
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