pslewis

All this argument about child benefit had got me thinking.

Personally, I think only ONE child should receive any state support - further children should not reveive any funding.

To make it fair, I would pronounce that any child born within the next 9 months will receive the old benefit as is.

All children, if the 2nd child on, born after 7th October 2013 will receive ZERO benefit.

A runner? I think so!!

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

I don't think there should be any such thing as child benefit at all. If you can't afford one don't have one Not sure that would be a vote winner though

SJ_Skyline

As the father of twins, I oppose your policy Lewis... Unless you have an exception to your blanket policy?

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Have I suddenly been teleported to China?




(I'd still vote for that...I call it the breader's benefit...FFS pay for your own kids )

pslewis

There is Insurance to cover a Twin event - so, no exceptions I'm afraid.

pslewis

On the contrary - you, and anyone else, can have as many children as they can afford .... nothing like China, in that case

pslewis

That would be my Policy upon Election

NO benefit for any child born 9 months ahead of a date to be decided.

the shreksta

iTrader: (20)

+1

wont affect me anyway as i cant stand kids so im never having them

pslewis

Limit it to 18 years old rather than the 19 it is now ..... and within 2 decades we would be free of the benefit.

Sorted!

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Then nobody will have kids apart from the underclass, a young working couple will look at the figures and potentially either not bother or defer it as they cant afford to lose a salary even temporarily, they cant afford child care, ok it isnt generally a totally financial decision, not with women involved but it does make being in a position to have kids more difficult, that little bit of money back, as, for working people it isnt a handout it is a tax break, makes a big difference.

The whole country and its systems needs people to have kids, that is why there are benefits like CB, they are wanting people to breed, the population is aging.

As it is, the ******* breed with inpunity, secure in the knowledge that the state will provide, the immigrants arrive and breed like Rabbits as really, if you are from Somalia a British council house and benefits is the promised land, those who buy their own house and paye taxes get to pay for everyone who doesnt contribute.

The Tories wont get back in on this, I can do without it, but its effectively a four grand pay cut, but we dont have a mortgage, I suspect those with one earner and a big mortgage will be ****ed losing nearly £200 a month if they have one salary of 50k, the rugged has been whipped from under them.

I can see why they needed to do it, but really it should be on joint income and not involve people doing tax returns, its a proper bodge, its amateur and likely to backfire come election time, I could have took it if they did it properly, as it is two earns on 50k get to keep it and use both tax allowances, it is blatantly unfair, I cant vote for a government that do things that badly. I think I will give UKIP a try next time.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

I don't agree J4CKO, when we started our family, we did it because we wanted children. Monetary issues never came into it. we knew that some sacrifices would need to be made and were willing to make them.

STEVEBOXER

I think it should be child benefit for the first 2 children,and after that you get nothing.i respect people's choice to have say 10 kids but why do tax payers have to pay to bring then up when most of the patents don't need to work as they get thousands in benefits. I also think that if you have the money to support a large family then good on you but should say David beckham etc receive benefit, I don't think so!

SJ_Skyline

I will miss my kid's child benefit as I use it to heat our swimming pool...

jonc

Monetary issues was never an issue when we tried for our first kids, but certainly was after they arrived, but then we did have twins. It was definitely a consideration when we had our third and we figured we could afford another. Now years down the line, having gotten used to receiving those benefits, we suddenly find we have to lose CB, which effectively amounts to a £4k pay cut in salary. That along with tax hike in income tax due to the drop in the 40% tax threshold and the loss of Child Tax Credit, this Government have really put the squeeze on our household finances.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Yes, I know what you mean, but not everybody is you, myself, I was just grateful for the sex.

pslewis

In those bygone days of mine, I used it to heat the HotTub ..... it was a weekly income you see? Not like the Winter Fuel Allowance which is once per year!

warrenm2

A 2 child limit is actually being considered right now by the Tories

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

Reduce the tax and people might be able to afford their children.

(I have two and get nothing by the way)

hodgy0_2

I have 5 kids, so am losing circa 6k a year (taxed) seriously thinking of sending the wife "on the game"

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

You'd end up owing people money.

hodgy0_2

That's my fear

CharlySkunkWeed

iTrader: (7)

i agree that benefits are out of control , but what happens to all the people who still have too many kids that cant afford them ? Do they all end up a homeless families ? Bound to a life of crime and illness and in turn still a burden to society ?

hodgy0_2

But the conundrum is that a lot of benefits are paid to people in work

A veritable race to the bottom and as I have said before, wage poverty looms for quite a few people

With the inexorable rise in food and fuel prices

We will see falling living standards for the vast majority, for the next 30 years or so

If you arn't poor -- chances are your children will be

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

I dont really understand why it has got like this, it isnt like there is a shortage of anything, all this extra money, where does it go, is it mainly to the super rich, i.e. the OPEC states, shareholders etc or doesnt it exist ?

pslewis

The money of the world is in everyone of our pockets.

Even the poorest in this country are amongst the 5% richest in the whole world.

We are lucky, on the whole.

People need to realise this and accept that the world is changing and starting a re-balancing act ...... we will gradually become poorer - but still be very rich.

hodgy0_2

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...-election.html

SJ_Skyline

J4CKO, do you have a pension? If so, then you too (your pension fund) are a shareholder.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Yes, I am aware of that, I have shares as well.

Leslie

I think thats fair enough.

If you have twins then one load of benefit should cover it.

Les

SJ_Skyline

Not even close Les, your immediate outgoings almost double.