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Old 07 December 2012, 09:55 PM
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Default 3D tv and 3D bluray advice

Looking at upgrading from a normal 32" LCd to a newer TV and 3D TVs have come down in price so thinking about buying one so got a few questions (preferably advice from people who have one but any useful advice appreciated )

Are they worth the slight extra price compared to just 'normal' plasma/LCD TVs?
Which glasses are better passive or active?
Does brand name really matter?
Does the size matter?

As for the Bluray player does brand name really matter?

TIA
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Have a look on here for some good info

http://www.avforums.com/forums/3d-tv-technology/

We bought a 42" Panasonic 3D (active) Plasma screen and Blu-ray player last year and very pleased with it.

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Old 08 December 2012, 09:50 AM
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Thanks Mick i shall take a look
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We went passive,

Two reasons

1) Cost, £40- £80 quid for glasses any with kids, how long before one or more sets get busted.

2) What do you watch when you go to the pictures? "Passive" and it works very well thank you


No doubt the resoloution purists will be along to scorn passive, but the best advice i can offer is

Go and try demo's from each and see what you think

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Old 08 December 2012, 10:02 AM
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1: Yes saw the price of those!!
2: Indeed, may be quite sad but saw Dredd in 3D and don't think I could watch it in 2D

Thing is I'm not an Audio/Visualphile and can't afford the biggest and best just want the best for what I can afford
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i have a samsung 50" plasma which is active shutter type. as said i bought it because i wanted full 1080 resolution. passive is great if you have kids as has also been said as the glasses are dirt cheap. size matters for 3d as the bigger the screen the more immersive it is. your eyes are the best judge so demo in store is a must. all types have their own little niggles you have to live with. plasma can be a bit dark for some people but gives the most natural picture, lcd has problems with viewing angles which can be quite narrow if your wall mounting for example and can also look "blocky" from certain angles. led are very bright which some say gives a false looking image. i advised a work mate to get one as he asked the same question as you. the price has came right down so if your in the market for a new tv its a no brainer to have the option of the 3d for roughly the same money. he was totally uninterested in 3d before he got the tv and now loves it.
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The Gadget Show did a Test recently on new 3D TV sets last week.
Personally have a Gen 1 Panasonic 42" Plasma 3D TV and Blu-Ray player from 2010, and it's still good today. Depends on the size of room etc.. Plasma is better suited for darker rooms. A Lot of the newer LCD/LED TVs are now getting there in terms of picture and less motion blur.
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Originally Posted by myblackwrx
Are they worth the slight extra price compared to just 'normal' plasma/LCD TVs?
That totally depends on whether or not you wish to watch 3D I guess. In reality there is very little content available at teh moment, but some of what is available is very good.

Which glasses are better passive or active?
Active are better, no doubt about it, but as someone said, there is a potential cost involved if your kids are likely to break them.


Does brand name really matter?
Yes, to a point, absolutely. very cheap TV's tend to look awfull. Buy the best you can afford from one of the big players like Panasonic, Samsung and LG. Personally I always favour Panasonic and really dont like Samsung, but each to their own.

Does the size matter?
Yes, its all about getting optimum FOV and detail. Too far away and you will lose the detail and FOV, too close and you will find the image looks pixelated. 3D makes this more critical. Details here.
http://www.the-home-cinema-guide.com...#axzz2EXbtz1D1


As for the Bluray player does brand name really matter?
That really depends on how much the image and sound quality really matter to you. Most stuff nowadays will perform pretty well, but within reason, the more you pay the better it gets. The sweet spot seems to be around £120 nowadays with massively diminishing returns after this prce bracket. If you need more than 1 HDMI output it can get a lot more expensive, so your AVR starts to become a consideration too. If you have one, will it pass the 3D image through it?

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I have an LG passive 3DTV connected to the PS3 (used as our 3D bluray player, but also plays 3D games such as COD BlackOps and Enchantered 3) and I am very pleased with the whole experience / setup.
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Forgot to mention in this case size does matter!
Old 09 December 2012, 10:37 AM
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I just bought a fairly cheap Toshiba 40 inch LED, didnt realise it was 3d until I got it in the car, they didnt have the Samsung I wanted and this was the same price.

It uses the shutter glasses but didnt come with any, might buy a pair and see how it looks, it says real3d, does it have ago and making 2d into 3d ?
Old 09 December 2012, 11:23 AM
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2d into 3d is pointless , I'm suffused you got no glasses at all jacko
Old 09 December 2012, 02:05 PM
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i looked at a samsung es8000 yesterday and it had like a ghost picture of what was on the screen just to the right of the main image.. i hope they are not all like this as reading the reviews on that model it's supposed to have a really good picture.
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Cheers guys as with most things it does seem down to personal taste.
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Think I'll be keeping my 2d plasma until super hi-def comes along. 3d doesn't appear to be the future.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ne/9760906.stm
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I wouldn't sit down with my feet up and watch a film with glasses on tbh just not for me, although its quite smart.
But I'm old school and rather watch film naturally. Blue ray and hd for me tbh until they get more technical and make tvs without having to wear some apperaiteous to watch telly.
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Wait a while and get 8K....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ne/9774380.stm

Testing revealed the image is so good that it looks real, and any attempt to introduce 3D made it look artificial, so no point.
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Wait a while and get 8K....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ne/9774380.stm

Testing revealed the image is so good that it looks real, and any attempt to introduce 3D made it look artificial, so no point.
Is that what..10 years away though. 4k should be sooner and worth upgrading to.
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Wait a while and get 8K....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ne/9774380.stm

Testing revealed the image is so good that it looks real, and any attempt to introduce 3D made it look artificial, so no point.
sky have been testing 4k recently.


4k HDTV Test has left 12441.00MHz, pol.V (DVB-S2 SID:2 PID:1536[MPEG-4] /), it is no longer transmitted by satellite in Europe.
taken from kingofsat
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4K was trialled at the Olympics this year in 3 or 4 places in this country.
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BBCs Click program did an article on their show in rleation to 4K (Ultra HD) and 8K (Super HD) a couple of weeks ago.

4K sets have already started to roll out in Japan. But if you are after one now they are going to cost you around £10,000! At the moment there isnt much choice on 4K players and for films they showed Blu-Ray films being upscaled from 1080P to the new 4K resolution.

The reason for the upscaled TVs (4K) is due to the size of screen. With 1080P the screen resolution will start to look blocky with bigger Televsions.

You will be happy to know that with 8K (When it arrives in 8-10 Years) Time, that this is the maxinum resolution the human eye can see for detail.
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