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Old 28 October 2012, 07:29 PM
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How is it the Scottish get free prescriptions, free university, free care for the elderley etc etc ?

I suspect those of us down south pay more in to the tax system yet get less out, am I missing something, seems very generous of the Scottish Parliament to vote these things through and use tax from the rest of the UK !
Old 28 October 2012, 07:29 PM
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Yes.
Old 28 October 2012, 07:34 PM
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Does seem a bit unfair that I have to pay eight quid for a prescription that subsidises someone elses, in Scotland, who is also quite able to pay, why should my kids pay eight grand a year tuition fees to further their education yet those in Scotland dont have to ?
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Well ,I,ll wear a skirt with me bits hanging out if it saves me a bit of cash!!
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Thats why we want independence, why the hell should folk have to pay for tuition to bring skills to the country and ffs folk work like hell all there lifes and then have to pay the robbing english government care for the elderly, tax when yer born till the day you die, no thanks.
Old 28 October 2012, 08:16 PM
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They even get a better scooby forum up there, *******s
Old 28 October 2012, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by **jay**
Thats why we want independence, why the hell should folk have to pay for tuition to bring skills to the country and ffs folk work like hell all there lifes and then have to pay the robbing english government care for the elderly, tax when yer born till the day you die, no thanks.

You also have bigger obesity, drink and heart problems. You take more per head out of the Exchequer too.
I can't wait for you to get independence.
Old 28 October 2012, 08:40 PM
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I personally think it's a fantastic arrangement. No complaints whatsoever.
Old 28 October 2012, 08:43 PM
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i believe the scottish govt gets a budget from westminster and is allowed to use it as they see fit. dont blame the scots cause you dont get free precriptions etc, complain to your M.P.. you cant say your subsidising free stuff in scotland, i agree if you can afford to pay then you should, but then why should i pay for my inhalers (that i need) yet some junkie can get methodone for free?
£8 grand in fees for further education? thats your choice to do it, or you could apply to get a uni in scotland? then you could argue that someone from scotland loses out that place if you get it?
free elderly care? theyve paid their dues over the years in taxes etc, what if an elderly couple from england that need care, decide to sell their home and move to scotland for free care? how fair does that make it then? i agree the free stuff cant last forever, but whats the solution?
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We down south do benefit from the North sea Oil/Gas revenue.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
You also have bigger obesity, drink and heart problems. You take more per head out of the Exchequer too.
I can't wait for you to get independence.
Thats with all the money we save from taxes and our pubs stay open later coz we know how to behave after we have left the pub lol

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Old 28 October 2012, 09:11 PM
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Have a Google about the Barnett formula.........

http://money.uk.msn.com/blog/pounds-...5-32315c9e8f8a

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Old 28 October 2012, 09:28 PM
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Yes, because we live in a better country
Old 28 October 2012, 09:32 PM
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Not to mention we are better human beings who deserve it.
Old 28 October 2012, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by **jay**
Thats why we want independence, why the hell should folk have to pay for tuition to bring skills to the country and ffs folk work like hell all there lifes and then have to pay the robbing english government care for the elderly, tax when yer born till the day you die, no thanks.
+1

Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
You also have bigger obesity, drink and heart problems. You take more per head out of the Exchequer too.
I can't wait for you to get independence.
I cant wait either I also cant wait to see the english goverment squeel
when they no longer have access to our natural resources and cant leech off our economy
Have a good long think about it , if we were a drain on england the english goverment would not have tried so hard to keep us for so long.

dont get me wrong I like the english people but I think the english goverment are parasites
scotland is a wealth of natural resources and when we get independence I cant wait to see what the english goverment will do without them

Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Not to mention we are better human beings who deserve it.






C'mon salmond you have my vote !
I will even take holidays on the day of the vote so I am not offshore on a oilrig at the time

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Old 28 October 2012, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Not to mention we are better human beings who deserve it.
Eh ......you pi55 iron brew and chomp on deep fried mars bars whilst wearing skirts with long socks

......only joking
Old 28 October 2012, 10:03 PM
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[QUOTE=J4CKO;10846878]How is it the Scottish get free prescriptions, free university, free care for the elderley etc etc ?

We don't give away all our dough to Ugandan asylum seekers.
Old 28 October 2012, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
You also have bigger obesity, drink and heart problems. You take more per head out of the Exchequer too.
I can't wait for you to get independence.
The amount of booze we go through up here should balance the books tax wise
Old 28 October 2012, 10:19 PM
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Logical thought is not something Salmond does. He now wants to be in NATO with Regiments and Battalions who struggle to recruit. Will all the Fijian soldiers retain their citizenship and rights?

Non resident jocks can't vote!

If jock MP's are allowed to vote in Westminster, why can't they vote in a jock election?

Natural resources that are running out?

Salmond is starting to get ****e from the MSP's over the "legal" advice he's got! Is he telling pork pies?

Bring all the Defence jobs from Faslane down south, the Army
Personnel Centre in Glasgow and all the dosh the relocated Germany units would have brought

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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Logical thought is not something Salmond does. He now wants to be in NATO with Regiments and Battalions who struggle to recruit. Will all the Fijian soldiers retain their citizenship and rights?

Non resident jocks can't vote!

If jock MP's are allowed to vote in Westminster, why can't they vote in a jock election?

Natural resources that are running out?

Salmond is starting to get ****e from the MSP's over the "legal" advice he's got! Is he telling pork pies?

Bring all the Defence jobs from Faslane down south, the Army
Personnel Centre in Glasgow and all the dosh the relocated Germany units would have brought
Natural rescources running out
My job offshore is running multi million pound tools down oil wells to scan and see if there
Is oil and our rescources are far from running out !
Best not to assume on things more so when it is a specialist in that
Specific field you are saying them to
As I said good luck to you when our resources are no longer being stolen by your government.
Also we have more resources than oil
Old 28 October 2012, 10:37 PM
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Also the trooper I am glad non-scots can't vote as this country is not theirs
And should not have a say in what happens here.
Old 28 October 2012, 10:42 PM
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FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 28 October 2012, 11:14 PM
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as a s scot, i do not and will not be voting for independance. A.S is a proper tool!!

just my 2p
Old 28 October 2012, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jef
A.S is a proper tool!!
Can you name a politician that isn't a proper tool? or even one that is actually worth voting for?

Dosen't matter who we vote for people like you and me are going to get fukced!
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Can you name a politician that isn't a proper tool? or even one that is actually worth voting for?

Dosen't matter who we vote for people like you and me are going to get fukced!
no i cant and i agree, but A.S i can see trying to "make his mark" and introduce more and more ridiculous ideas and we have to pay.

i dont like him, or any politician tbh, but i do think we would be worse off being independant with him leading the way - the guys a fckin a*sehole.
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All the scottish need now is free alcohol.....
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Originally Posted by jef
i dont like him, or any politician tbh, but i do think we would be worse off being independant with him leading the way - the guys a fckin a*sehole.
+1. independance is nice romantic ideal but it wont work with salmond leading with left/labour esq policies.
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
How is it the Scottish get free prescriptions, free university, free care for the elderley etc etc ?

I suspect those of us down south pay more in to the tax system yet get less out, am I missing something, seems very generous of the Scottish Parliament to vote these things through and use tax from the rest of the UK !
Yes there is some kind of financial formula whose name I can't remember which works out how much extra money we pay down south to finance that situation.

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Alan Salmond held up Iceland and Eire as examples of how to a run a country!

What about the jock's working down south, why can't they vote?

Will foreign nationals (non EU) have to pay for all the delights mentioned in the OP?

The companies investing the money are looking closely at the future, if Salmond imposes "Oil Tax" would they stay? If there is so much oil there why do we import so much?

And what about the other questions I asked, nizmo80?

Answers?

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Old 29 October 2012, 05:05 PM
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As a proud Brit first and secondly Englishman, I do not want to see Scotland go independent.

I don’t feel it would serve any of us well. We have a huge amount of shared history and culture. I think that we could never really be truly independent of one-and-other anyway; there are far too many practical and psychological ties.

Some of the separatists need to be careful what they wish for, yes Scotland has fantastic resources to call upon, but do they really think they are best served by handing them over to Alex Salmond and the rest of his Marxist brigade? Scotland would very quickly go bust, if his brand of politics were allowed to properly take hold.

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