Rotten b@stards just cancelled my operation.
02 May 2012, 11:37 AM
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Rotten b@stards just cancelled my operation.
EIGHT hours before I was due to go in for back surgery, Hull Royal call me to tell me I've been bounced as they have an emergency.
Apparently I've ONLY waited since February 2nd, in THEIR eyes, despite EVERYONE knowing I've had this since 30th April last year
Over a year, and no-one cares, all they care about is their targets.
BLOODY targets. Bloody hospitals.
Now I'm back on the waiting list and might have to wait right up to 7th June, ANOTHER FIVE WEEKS of unrelenting pain.
NHS: ****!
Apparently I've ONLY waited since February 2nd, in THEIR eyes, despite EVERYONE knowing I've had this since 30th April last year
Over a year, and no-one cares, all they care about is their targets.BLOODY targets. Bloody hospitals.
Now I'm back on the waiting list and might have to wait right up to 7th June, ANOTHER FIVE WEEKS of unrelenting pain.
NHS: ****!
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02 May 2012, 12:54 PM
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My mother had her cancer op cancelled twice whilst waiting in the hospital on both days.
Full left breast mascetomy!
Shite but unfortunately emergency cases from accidents take priority
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02 May 2012, 01:37 PM
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My dad had to wait two weeks with a broken ankle before it could be operated on.
Although the swelling was directly caused by the stupidly long wait in A&E for X-ray....Six hours if I remember rightly..then another two hours after x-ray once they figured what to do.....by which time the ankle was inoperable due to the swelling.
02 May 2012, 01:48 PM
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EIGHT hours before I was due to go in for back surgery, Hull Royal call me to tell me I've been bounced as they have an emergency.
Apparently I've ONLY waited since February 2nd, in THEIR eyes, despite EVERYONE knowing I've had this since 30th April last year Over a year, and no-one cares, all they care about is their targets.
BLOODY targets. Bloody hospitals.
Now I'm back on the waiting list and might have to wait right up to 7th June, ANOTHER FIVE WEEKS of unrelenting pain.
NHS: ****!
Apparently I've ONLY waited since February 2nd, in THEIR eyes, despite EVERYONE knowing I've had this since 30th April last year
Over a year, and no-one cares, all they care about is their targets.BLOODY targets. Bloody hospitals.
Now I'm back on the waiting list and might have to wait right up to 7th June, ANOTHER FIVE WEEKS of unrelenting pain.
NHS: ****!
02 May 2012, 02:04 PM
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Yes, discectomy.
Wasat at home eight hours before going in tonight.
I know about emergencies, but I CANNOT believe there isn't SOMEONE who has waited less time than my year and three days.......
Want to bet that when they DO call me again, I have to go over for the three hour pre-assessment again?
Only a 66 mile round trip and £3 across the bridge, kerching!
If I could afford to go private, I would do it. I can't.
Wasat at home eight hours before going in tonight.
I know about emergencies, but I CANNOT believe there isn't SOMEONE who has waited less time than my year and three days.......
Want to bet that when they DO call me again, I have to go over for the three hour pre-assessment again?
Only a 66 mile round trip and £3 across the bridge, kerching!
If I could afford to go private, I would do it. I can't.
02 May 2012, 02:58 PM
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I had one in 2001 after spending nearly 6 months in agony, sleeping on the floor at home.
To be honest I've never been completely right after the op and over the last 18 months my back has gone progressively worse.
Saw my doctor 2 weeks ago and he wants be to be re-assessed as my mobility is far worse now, have an appointment at the spinal clinic in 2 weeks time.
Hope you don't have to wait too long and good luck with the op.
To be honest I've never been completely right after the op and over the last 18 months my back has gone progressively worse.
Saw my doctor 2 weeks ago and he wants be to be re-assessed as my mobility is far worse now, have an appointment at the spinal clinic in 2 weeks time.
Hope you don't have to wait too long and good luck with the op.
02 May 2012, 05:11 PM
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I'm always amazed that a single emergency is enough for the NHS to start cancelling routine operations. Quite apart from the disruption to the patient it must create a huge extra admin burden.
Any commercial professional organisation faced with a similarly bursty workload would configure itself to handle these kind of problems with minimal disruption, usually by asking staff to put some extra hours in. Say what you like about lawyers, but they handle this kind of stuff all the time - so why can't health professionals do the same?
Any commercial professional organisation faced with a similarly bursty workload would configure itself to handle these kind of problems with minimal disruption, usually by asking staff to put some extra hours in. Say what you like about lawyers, but they handle this kind of stuff all the time - so why can't health professionals do the same?
02 May 2012, 05:28 PM
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I'm always amazed that a single emergency is enough for the NHS to start cancelling routine operations. Quite apart from the disruption to the patient it must create a huge extra admin burden.
Any commercial professional organisation faced with a similarly bursty workload would configure itself to handle these kind of problems with minimal disruption,usually by asking staff to put some extra hours in. Say what you like about lawyers, but they handle this kind of stuff all the time - so why can't health professionals do the same?
Any commercial professional organisation faced with a similarly bursty workload would configure itself to handle these kind of problems with minimal disruption,usually by asking staff to put some extra hours in. Say what you like about lawyers, but they handle this kind of stuff all the time - so why can't health professionals do the same?
What have lawyers got to do with it? The two professions or their working environments aren't even remotely similar
02 May 2012, 08:28 PM
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I ran routine (OK the nurses did) theatre lists when I worked in Bristol.......absolute nightmare when an emergency cropped up and someone nicked the theatre you were about to use. It made everyone very unhappy apart from the poor individual needing the emergency surgery
As an aside we run clinics here and in order to make sure we can cope with spikes the powers that be run them generally over resourced by 66% so that if there is something that crops up then it can be fitted in.
Downside is that they pay someone to do nothing for 66% of the clinic time..
Shaun
As an aside we run clinics here and in order to make sure we can cope with spikes the powers that be run them generally over resourced by 66% so that if there is something that crops up then it can be fitted in.
Downside is that they pay someone to do nothing for 66% of the clinic time..
Shaun
02 May 2012, 08:51 PM
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nightmare mate, maybe was multiple emergancies that took precedance?
suppose its maybe not just the days events but the lengthy initial wait also.
whan my mother was dying from cancer she was admitted to the beatson clinic and she was so well catered for and looked after during all treatments and ops
then she chose to die at home, which was honoured, with great support from Maggies and other help.
with nhs, bar a few isloted incidents with my son, i really cant complain about my experiences of patient care- guess this is maybe what they mean with postcode lottery
suppose its maybe not just the days events but the lengthy initial wait also.
whan my mother was dying from cancer she was admitted to the beatson clinic and she was so well catered for and looked after during all treatments and ops
then she chose to die at home, which was honoured, with great support from Maggies and other help.
with nhs, bar a few isloted incidents with my son, i really cant complain about my experiences of patient care- guess this is maybe what they mean with postcode lottery
02 May 2012, 11:32 PM
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Not sure I see your point. They are two professional occupations, highly paid (at the top end at least) so seems like a valid comparison to me. My point is that lots of lawyers deal with a much more variable workload, and the ethos in the profession is to do what it takes to get the job done. The culture among health professional seems to be the exact opposite (at least once they are past training) - very regimented working patterns with seemingly little flexibility to adapt to spikes in work load.
03 May 2012, 07:05 AM
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Not sure I see your point. They are two professional occupations, highly paid (at the top end at least) so seems like a valid comparison to me. My point is that lots of lawyers deal with a much more variable workload, and the ethos in the profession is to do what it takes to get the job done. The culture among health professional seems to be the exact opposite (at least once they are past training) - very regimented working patterns with seemingly little flexibility to adapt to spikes in work load.
You must see my point as the rest of your post tries to address it!
I'll repeat and say the two professions are far from comparable.
Just because they are often mentioned in the same breath as the 'top professions' does not make their working styles, demands and environments comparable.
I cannot see how you think lawyers deal with a more variable and unpredictable work load than doctors.
What is the legal equivalent of say a multi car pile up involving thirty people all requiring life saving/urgent treatment suddenly happening?
Or a fire in a block of flats meaning suddenly ten people turn up with serious burn injuries and smoke inhalation?
Or a whole ward being closed due to a C Diff outbreak? Or a flu epidemic? (swine flu wasn't that long ago)
A few weeks of snow that suddenly means you have three times as many people with broken ankles and hips as you usually have?
Who do you think has major incident plans in place to deal with potentially massive spikes in demand ie a terrorist attack or major natural disaster? Lawyers?
As far as I know nobody fast paged the lawyers when the 7/7 bombings took place
Lawyers might pull the occasional all nighter but this is just not in the same league as the unpredictability in demand that the health service can face.
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03 May 2012, 07:17 AM
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i think the nhs is brilliant for emergencies but not so for cases like this post, i think its probably down to lack of funding and lack of trained staff, ive seen the hours some of these top surgeons do, god knows how they do it.
03 May 2012, 08:56 AM
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You must see my point as the rest of your post tries to address it!
I'll repeat and say the two professions are far from comparable.
Just because they are often mentioned in the same breath as the 'top professions' does not make their working styles, demands and environments comparable.
I cannot see how you think lawyers deal with a more variable and unpredictable work load than doctors.
What is the legal equivalent of say a multi car pile up involving thirty people all requiring life saving/urgent treatment suddenly happening?
Or a fire in a block of flats meaning suddenly ten people turn up with serious burn injuries and smoke inhalation?
Or a whole ward being closed due to a C Diff outbreak? Or a flu epidemic? (swine flu wasn't that long ago)
A few weeks of snow that suddenly means you have three times as many people with broken ankles and hips as you usually have?
Who do you think has major incident plans in place to deal with potentially massive spikes in demand ie a terrorist attack or major natural disaster? Lawyers?
As far as I know nobody fast paged the lawyers when the 7/7 bombings took place
Lawyers might pull the occasional all nighter but this is just not in the same league as the unpredictability in demand that the health service can face.
I'll repeat and say the two professions are far from comparable.
Just because they are often mentioned in the same breath as the 'top professions' does not make their working styles, demands and environments comparable.
I cannot see how you think lawyers deal with a more variable and unpredictable work load than doctors.
What is the legal equivalent of say a multi car pile up involving thirty people all requiring life saving/urgent treatment suddenly happening?
Or a fire in a block of flats meaning suddenly ten people turn up with serious burn injuries and smoke inhalation?
Or a whole ward being closed due to a C Diff outbreak? Or a flu epidemic? (swine flu wasn't that long ago)
A few weeks of snow that suddenly means you have three times as many people with broken ankles and hips as you usually have?
Who do you think has major incident plans in place to deal with potentially massive spikes in demand ie a terrorist attack or major natural disaster? Lawyers?
As far as I know nobody fast paged the lawyers when the 7/7 bombings took place
Lawyers might pull the occasional all nighter but this is just not in the same league as the unpredictability in demand that the health service can face.
Fingers crossed for a quick new date, alcazar
03 May 2012, 09:07 AM
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Could that be due to swelling though?
My dad had to wait two weeks with a broken ankle before it could be operated on.
Although the swelling was directly caused by the stupidly long wait in A&E for X-ray....Six hours if I remember rightly..then another two hours after x-ray once they figured what to do.....by which time the ankle was inoperable due to the swelling.
My dad had to wait two weeks with a broken ankle before it could be operated on.
Although the swelling was directly caused by the stupidly long wait in A&E for X-ray....Six hours if I remember rightly..then another two hours after x-ray once they figured what to do.....by which time the ankle was inoperable due to the swelling.
03 May 2012, 10:56 AM
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When you think about it, an emergency always has to take priority. Of course it is upsetting but if it is more urgent than booked surgery,what else can they do? They cannot afford the spare beds or people to do the operations either.
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03 May 2012, 09:52 PM
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