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Old 14 April 2012, 04:49 PM
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Default So who won on the national then?

My hayburner came second after a very close finish.
Old 14 April 2012, 04:58 PM
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3rd and 4th, £2.50 each way on each so won almost **** all
Old 14 April 2012, 05:49 PM
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Mine got shot.
Old 14 April 2012, 06:12 PM
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i havnt seen it but was going to put £10 on number 9 to win and £10 on 27 to win.
Old 14 April 2012, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
Mine got shot.
One of mine too, terrible shame
Old 14 April 2012, 07:13 PM
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Barbaric event! Another 2 perfectly fit and healthy horses dead!

All in the name of SPORT!
Old 14 April 2012, 07:52 PM
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I had a bet, but was gutted to see it covered up dead whilst the race carried on, damn shame....
Old 14 April 2012, 08:01 PM
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Guy I know put 50 on the winner. Jammy git!
Old 14 April 2012, 08:46 PM
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Same about According To Pete and Synchronised. Was almost like synchronised knew what was coming when he threw AP off before the race and did a runner! Poor bugger!

Someone put £50,000 on synchronised

You'd think with horses like Synchronised (that have made a fortune) the owners would fight tooth and nail to have them operated on and retired. You always get the presenter saying the kindest thing is to put them down but it just seems a shocker when you think what these beasts have served up for their owners/trainers over the years.
Old 14 April 2012, 09:29 PM
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I had money on synchronised and seabass, both each way so made a bit on seabass. Sad to hear about synchronised.
Old 14 April 2012, 09:37 PM
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as above why do they not bother to try to save them when they have served the owner so well!? bit nasty imo
Old 14 April 2012, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dj219957
as above why do they not bother to try to save them when they have served the owner so well!? bit nasty imo
In most cases a fracture to the leg on a horse results in it being destroyed. That's if it is a £500 pony or a £1m racehorse. How the horse got its fracture is a different argument. They wouldn't just destroy it because it has 'served' its purpose! The horse would still be worth a lot of money.
Old 14 April 2012, 10:33 PM
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I would have thought there must some stud value in the horse even if it's racing days are over.
Or do they remove the goods before they dispose of the horse?
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as above why do they not bother to try to save them when they have served the owner so well!? bit nasty imo
Old 14 April 2012, 10:52 PM
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as Tony Soprano would say "just business, nothing personal"
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Wake up boys, insurance doesnt pay enough for a broken leg....A pony like that will be a nice pay out for a bullet in the head

Sad but true
Old 15 April 2012, 08:30 AM
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Wake up boys, insurance doesnt pay enough for a broken leg....A pony like that will be a nice pay out for a bullet in the head

Sad but true
Old 15 April 2012, 10:45 AM
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I've had this conversation with a vet friend of mine in the past, because it's always seemed a bit harsh to me too
Apparently because of the weight and time involved, it's practically impossible to fix and set a broken leg on large animals, they also destroy cattle with similar injuries
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Is it right to run these animals in a dangerous race?

I'm not sure I'm against horse racing as a whole, although it wouldnt bother me if it didnt exist and i don't think they should be whipped to go faster but...

Should the Grand National be made safer, to the point that horses aren't put at risk from stupidly high fences and long distances?
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Old 15 April 2012, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
I've had this conversation with a vet friend of mine in the past, because it's always seemed a bit harsh to me too
Apparently because of the weight and time involved, it's practically impossible to fix and set a broken leg on large animals, they also destroy cattle with similar injuries
I've heard that too. Personally I see it as half the truth, the other half is that it makes economic sense to destroy it (insurance pay out and avoids the cost of caring for a broken animal).

I don't want to see the races banned but otoh watching the National on HD widescreen TV is not for the faint hearted. The falls look bone crunching and you could see an least one animal on TV that injured itself and they put a black screen up around the injured jockey. It wasn't so graphic years ago on a crapy cathode ray TV.
Old 15 April 2012, 02:44 PM
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could they not lower the jumps a tad?
Old 15 April 2012, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dj219957
could they not lower the jumps a tad?

They'd be walks then
Old 15 April 2012, 03:38 PM
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It is a great race and a British tradition of course.

Apart from that I think that the jumps should be made safer, I feel it is unfair to risk the horses lives as happens at the moment.

It would still be just as great a race with 30 jumps for the horses to cope with, but a lot less upsetting to see the fallers being put down. It was terrible to see that one jump being bypassed second time around with the black shielding having been erected.

I make no excuses for being an animal lover.

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Old 15 April 2012, 03:54 PM
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Should replace the spectacle with hamsters for horses. And single sections of Subbuteo pitchside fencing for the jumps...
Old 16 April 2012, 12:12 PM
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My Mrs did and won her works sweep stake and netted £29 :-)
Old 16 April 2012, 01:14 PM
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So should rugby and rallying be banned because actual people sometimes get hurt or killed, not just horses. The owners do risk analysis, and the benefits must outweigh the costs, otherwise no horses would compete.
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Thing is, non-humans don't have any say in the matter, regardless...

That said, I'm not against it. Not into horsey racing so my stance is a bit "meh" anyway.
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