Tax credits
20 February 2012, 05:35 PM
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Tax credits
I see the government is making sure hardly anyone will get these as I have just recieved a letter from the taxman saying if you make more than £18k a year joint income for working tax credits or £26k for a joint income for child tax credits the benefits will cease. I can't see too many people qualifying for these credits anymore. Its going to hit alot more families in the pocket as that extra bit cash is always a help.
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20 February 2012, 08:19 PM
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20 February 2012, 09:07 PM
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Are child tax credits different to child allowance? I've just been trying to read up on it as our first child is due in July and I can't get my head round it, both me and my wife earn under £35k each so don't qualify for anything really but I was under the impression child allowance is paid as long as neither parent is in the higher tax band?
20 February 2012, 10:07 PM
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Why should the taxpayer give cash to folks who simply need to replicate their DNA ?
FFS hire a monkey from the zoo, they will do less criminal damage in its lifetime.
FFS hire a monkey from the zoo, they will do less criminal damage in its lifetime.
20 February 2012, 10:13 PM
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No, Child tax credits are means tested and Child alowance is a universal benefit.....completely different.
My family get Child allowance which will be stopped 2013 for me as I earn above the threshold.
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My family get Child allowance which will be stopped 2013 for me as I earn above the threshold.
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20 February 2012, 11:01 PM
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Agreed, but I'll continue raising my kids with good morals, values and ethics - you get out what you put in... try your hardest at everything and anything, and if you fail at least you've given it your best shot... etc. etc.
For the record our child tax credits are being stopped this year, and our child benefit will stop too - all because I've worked hard all my life to better myself and my career, and the wife now puts in extra hours at work (albeit it part time).
Tell me how that's fair...
For the record our child tax credits are being stopped this year, and our child benefit will stop too - all because I've worked hard all my life to better myself and my career, and the wife now puts in extra hours at work (albeit it part time).
Tell me how that's fair...
21 February 2012, 12:35 AM
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21 February 2012, 06:01 AM
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I tend to agree with you what would scooby do
However I've been paying in since I was 16 and never claimed a thing im my life so if I can get some tiny ammount back in child allowance or whatever then I'm definitely going to do it, it won't even scratch the surface of what I've paid to fund everyone else who chooses not to work etc
However I've been paying in since I was 16 and never claimed a thing im my life so if I can get some tiny ammount back in child allowance or whatever then I'm definitely going to do it, it won't even scratch the surface of what I've paid to fund everyone else who chooses not to work etc
21 February 2012, 07:23 AM
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I have two kids and agree, we shouldn't be paying people to have kids .. we should be reviewing income and reducing tax to allow them to afford to work and keep their children in care.
Or, we just out price work, they leave and go on full time benefits, lot more cost to the government.
21 February 2012, 10:33 AM
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Why should I as a healthy male who has worked since I was 16 and paid tax, national insurance etc pay for others who have never worked a day in their lives and sit at home smoking and drinking who then end up in hospital needing medical treatment for their life style choice?
I do tend to agree with what others have said about child allowance but the same argument exists throughout the whole system.
Maybe we should scrap the whole thing and everyone sorts themselves out, takes out the required insurance policies etc like America
I do tend to agree with what others have said about child allowance but the same argument exists throughout the whole system.
Maybe we should scrap the whole thing and everyone sorts themselves out, takes out the required insurance policies etc like America
21 February 2012, 10:42 AM
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If a married couple are earning double what the single person they're paying double the tax back into the system.
So if you're happy for them to take tax credits, what do you think they'll use the extra cash for. Paying for the work shy and immigrants.
I prefer a hard working family get rewarded than the ones who don't wanna work or shouldn't be here
21 February 2012, 12:11 PM
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The single person could be co-habiting. Even so, I doubt the child tax credits comes from the council tax pot - but I have no idea of fact-checking that!
I'd much prefer tax to be reduced overall than to introduce credits, the whole system is too complicated. And anyway, a hard-working family does get rewarded; with salaries!
Tax credits should go to those who really need it. Just because people may pay into the tax system all their lives, it isn't like some savings account where they can dip into it when they need it - it is for those less fortunate, that's the point of benefits and I would think tax credits (although obviously the whole benefits system is massively abused at the moment).
I'd much prefer tax to be reduced overall than to introduce credits, the whole system is too complicated. And anyway, a hard-working family does get rewarded; with salaries!
Tax credits should go to those who really need it. Just because people may pay into the tax system all their lives, it isn't like some savings account where they can dip into it when they need it - it is for those less fortunate, that's the point of benefits and I would think tax credits (although obviously the whole benefits system is massively abused at the moment).
21 February 2012, 12:50 PM
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Hang on! One minute you're saying abolish it next you saying you don't mind it.
If our credits was to be took as they help pay nursery fee's my wife would have to quit work . Therefore my wife would paying any tax into the system.
But some slag we know of got pregnant at 16 never had a job , gets a house, money to run it and still has enough to go out at the weekend.
So in your opinion who do you think is more deserving to receive the credits?
If our credits was to be took as they help pay nursery fee's my wife would have to quit work . Therefore my wife would paying any tax into the system.
But some slag we know of got pregnant at 16 never had a job , gets a house, money to run it and still has enough to go out at the weekend.
So in your opinion who do you think is more deserving to receive the credits?
21 February 2012, 05:50 PM
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I haven't been rewarded with good salaries as since this recession has started my wage has halfed and I,m working longer hours as well. I'm sure a lot of firms are now using the recession as an excuse to keep people on lower money and not give any pay rises.
21 February 2012, 06:23 PM
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The single person could be co-habiting. Even so, I doubt the child tax credits comes from the council tax pot - but I have no idea of fact-checking that!
I'd much prefer tax to be reduced overall than to introduce credits, the whole system is too complicated. And anyway, a hard-working family does get rewarded; with salaries!
Tax credits should go to those who really need it. Just because people may pay into the tax system all their lives, it isn't like some savings account where they can dip into it when they need it - it is for those less fortunate, that's the point of benefits and I would think tax credits (although obviously the whole benefits system is massively abused at the moment).
I'd much prefer tax to be reduced overall than to introduce credits, the whole system is too complicated. And anyway, a hard-working family does get rewarded; with salaries!
Tax credits should go to those who really need it. Just because people may pay into the tax system all their lives, it isn't like some savings account where they can dip into it when they need it - it is for those less fortunate, that's the point of benefits and I would think tax credits (although obviously the whole benefits system is massively abused at the moment).
21 February 2012, 08:00 PM
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21 February 2012, 08:08 PM
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If our credits was to be took as they help pay nursery fee's my wife would have to quit work . Therefore my wife would paying any tax into the system.
But some slag we know of got pregnant at 16 never had a job , gets a house, money to run it and still has enough to go out at the weekend.
So in your opinion who do you think is more deserving to receive the credits?
But some slag we know of got pregnant at 16 never had a job , gets a house, money to run it and still has enough to go out at the weekend.
So in your opinion who do you think is more deserving to receive the credits?
21 February 2012, 08:18 PM
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always seems, the powers that be take the easiest options regardless of who it hurts.
21 February 2012, 09:02 PM
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As I say, the whole benefits system is being abused right now. The purpose of these credits/benefits should be to keep people from being homeless and starving, that is it. If you stopped receiving child tax credits, your world would not end. Who knows, if we all paid less tax to pay less tax credit, maybe you would be able to afford the nursery and your wife would still be able to work.
You don't see my point about my wife having to quit work do you? They help towards you paying your nursery fee's so you can work therefore being able to pay tax back into the system, if my wife was to stay at home her tax credits would go up substantially and she wouldn't pay taxes.so it's in the governments best interest to make sure working families exist.
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