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Old 18 January 2012, 09:33 PM
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Looking for a new drill for boarding out my loft space, my Bosch unit has died a death and was never very good.

Criteria is

Must be cordless

Must work as screw driver

Prefer more than one battery

Around £100

I currently have a corded hammer drill so don't really need a hammer function too much.
It's only for occasional DIY use I'm no professional trades man.

What's the recommendations?
Old 18 January 2012, 09:38 PM
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There's currently a de Walt dc100ka-gb on the screw fix home page which looks good, anone any opinions?
Old 18 January 2012, 09:49 PM
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de walt all the way mate, i would never buy another drill, ive had mine abt 5 years and never had a problem.
Old 18 January 2012, 09:50 PM
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Makita, you should pick one up for that money 14v ish.

Have got loads of makita bits and bobs and it lasts forever. See it as an investment.

Dewalt is ok but wont last as long.

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Old 18 January 2012, 09:52 PM
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Second vote for Makita here, if you can run to a bit more money the 18volt drills with the 3.0amp hour batteries are ace.
Old 18 January 2012, 09:54 PM
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This kind...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dri...KMrL8QOG67WmDg
Old 18 January 2012, 09:54 PM
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I was thinking either Makita or de Walt and having a look there is only about £15 price difference in similar models so nothing really
Old 18 January 2012, 09:55 PM
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Have to agree with Chop. Makita all the way. Even though they're a little more pricey, it certainly pays to have more quality. All our tools are Makita and they're very robust and are taking knocks all the time. We use them on our farm and they always complete the task so just for general DIY purposes I can't see you having a problem at all.

Also a lot of tradesmen use Makita.
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
Lol, don't think the pregnant wife would like that one!
Old 18 January 2012, 09:59 PM
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I have a black n decker thats brilliant
Old 18 January 2012, 10:11 PM
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Definatly won't go wrong with dewalt or makita, I'm a joiner and all my power tools are dewalt or makita, they are the best quality, personally I prefere makita over dewalt mostly because I don't like the bright yellow colour. B&Q do an 18v makita for £95, 1.3ah,2 batterys and a charger, it's the one I've got and they last years and take alot of abuse.
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Makita with a 3Ah Li-Ion battery pack.

Actually anything with Li-Ion....once you go Li-ion, you'll never go back to a Nicad or Ni-MH! Especially for occasional use - as they don't self discharge.

I had two batteries with mine....But I shouldn't have bothered. As its thats quick to charge and isn't bothered about memory effect etc. So I very rarely need the second battery pack

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Old 19 January 2012, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Makita with a 3Ah Li-Ion battery pack.

Actually anything with Li-Ion....once you go Li-ion, you'll never go back to a Nicad or Ni-MH! Especially for occasional use - as they don't self discharge.

I had two batteries with mine....But I shouldn't have bothered. As its thats quick to charge and isn't bothered about memory effect etc. So I very rarely need the second battery pack
Indeed, my combi drill (screwdriver, normal and hammer drill) only came with one Li-Ion battery but it lasts ages and it also charges in just over twenty minutes from flat. Perfect excuse for a tea break

About £150 if you shop around: http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/scripts/...2018v%20Makita
Old 19 January 2012, 09:33 AM
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How often will you be using the drill though. If you are a tradesman, I would definitely go for the stuff mentioned above, but for occasional household use I'm sure something cheaper will do the job.
Old 19 January 2012, 09:47 AM
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Worx have a really good range b&q do them.
I have had worx kit for years and never been let down.
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Got a Makita with two batteries from B&Q a few months back. 18V. £99. Fantastic.
Old 19 January 2012, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Got a Makita with two batteries from B&Q a few months back. 18V. £99. Fantastic.
yep same, best value for money ever
Old 19 January 2012, 10:28 AM
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I have a Black&Decker corded hammer action drill and cordless drill driver. Both have got me through 8years of DIY. Sadly I just burnt the clutch bit out of the cordless(due to abuse) and the hammer action just doesn't cut the mustard trying to get through the concrete walls in my apartment - never had an issue with it and the walls in my last house.
Old 19 January 2012, 11:20 AM
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It sounds like this is a home use drill.
Definitely go Li-Ion - its great in that the drill will have battery life if you have not used it for a while.
The B&Q MacAllister drill is pretty good value for money.
Old 19 January 2012, 11:21 AM
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So mixed reviews about the b and q makita stuff then. I had a Bosch drill which was rubbish so I wanted to go for better quality than b&q own brand stuff.
Old 19 January 2012, 11:31 AM
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Old 19 January 2012, 12:17 PM
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I would have a look a Hilti. Beats everyone hand-down on quality, reliability and lifespan, but not sure you'd get one for £100.
Old 19 January 2012, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
That is probably bigger than my house.
Old 19 January 2012, 01:02 PM
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Makita every time

DeWalt are a close second, but I personally find Makita stuff more comfortable to hold and better balanced. Li-Ion is definitely the way forward too
Old 19 January 2012, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
I agree here. I'm one who'll look at the Makita stuff as 'it'll never let you down' etc etc and they are very good drills. But at the end of the day, how often are you really going to use it? Even for a large DIY project you'll probably use it less over a week than a 'tradesman' uses it in a morning so save your money and go for a Wickes drill, or a B&Q one.

If you do go for Makita you may as well pay the proper money - don't go for the ones with the orange batteries, the ones they normally have in B&Q for a 'bargain £99'. The orange batteries are the old NiCd ones - see posts above regarding battery technology.

Dave
I agree to a point, IMHO a large chunk of a li-ion drill's cost is for the type of battery and charger. So most cheapies have naff batteries. (except Dewalt which have a habit of selling expensive drills supplied with inferior battery packs ). Nicads and NiMH cells are cheap as chips, so obviously there is more profit to be had on drills using these types of batteries.

My BHP452 is £100 as body-only without any batteries nor a charger and case. With a battery/charge/case its £150 and £200 for 2 batteries. Even though to buy the battery on its own they want to charge £70!!!

So fair to say the battery itself is not far from £50 a pop regardless of how good the drill is! (i.e a £50 drill could cost £100 due to its battery). Yes you can go cheaper, but as you say it'll be for a Ni-cad or Ni-Mh and a Sloooow 1hour+ charger.

I think we've all been there: Leave it for over a month without using it and all of the batteries will have mostly gone flat next time you need to use it.



One thing I will say is the standard Makita cases are poo - black painted cardboard with aluminum surround and a load of sponge prevening you putting any other tools and bits in The BHP453 in the above link seems to have a nice storage case Don't know what the difference between the BHP452 and BHP453 is though

PS The Makita BHP452 is not brilliant for very hard masonary/concrete unless used with only the best masonary bits (blunt or chrome plated - forget it! )....better off to have a cheap corded SDS drill for any tough stuff, to save abusing the cordless.
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You won't go wrong with one of these makitas

http://m.diy.com/mt/www.diy.com/nav/...ect#un_reviews

Lithium battery's are very good, but it's just a waste of money if it's only for occasional diy use.
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OAP's can also get 10% off aswell on certain days at B&Q, take your gran along for a trip out and everyone's a winner!

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Echo pretty much everyone else: Makita or DeWalt.
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Originally Posted by trio
You won't go wrong with one of these makitas

http://m.diy.com/mt/www.diy.com/nav/...ect#un_reviews

Lithium battery's are very good, but it's just a waste of money if it's only for occasional diy use.

Wrong IMO, after having all tyes of batteries in drills

Lithion is BETTER suited for diy/occasional use.

Just don't deep discharge them.

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