Kudos to Ed Miliband
18 January 2012, 09:40 AM
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Kudos to Ed Miliband
I'm not a Labour supporter, but it is refreshing to see an opposition leader actually speak some sense and not give in to unions or to populist opinion that you must oppose whatever is unpopular.
To say he is not against the cuts in spending was a brave thing to do, and he could easily have gone the other way and explained how vicious and draconian and unnecessary the measures are, but instead he was actually telling it as it is and not making promises he cannot keep.
The sad thing is that I suspect he'll lose more support over it than he gains since realism and Labour Party supporters do not mix (especially when Labour is in opposition) which is a shame, but perhaps, just perhaps, the electorate will actually be able to listen to a proper debate come election time.
Am I alone in this one?
To say he is not against the cuts in spending was a brave thing to do, and he could easily have gone the other way and explained how vicious and draconian and unnecessary the measures are, but instead he was actually telling it as it is and not making promises he cannot keep.
The sad thing is that I suspect he'll lose more support over it than he gains since realism and Labour Party supporters do not mix (especially when Labour is in opposition) which is a shame, but perhaps, just perhaps, the electorate will actually be able to listen to a proper debate come election time.
Am I alone in this one?
18 January 2012, 10:48 AM
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The Labour leadership race has just started then. With Millipede going against his union paymasters he's not long for this world. And even for Labour it's the height of hypocrisy so come out now and support the cuts when they had 13 years in power and did nothing but spend spend spend.
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18 January 2012, 11:00 AM
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Its just a cycle.....
Conservatives save money & store it up
Labour come in and spend it all
Conservatives return....save....
Labour returns....spend it all
Conservatives return....save....
Labour returns....spend it all
repeat until bored....
As I see it anyway!
Conservatives save money & store it up
Labour come in and spend it all
Conservatives return....save....
Labour returns....spend it all
Conservatives return....save....
Labour returns....spend it all
repeat until bored....
As I see it anyway!
18 January 2012, 11:08 AM
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Anyone that said that the cuts were not needed would just look like an idiot trying to get votes from people that just don't understand the problems we are in.
Ed really does seem like a complete muppet. His brother was a much better option for the labour party. They will not be taken seriously until they get rid of Ed. Fact.
Ed really does seem like a complete muppet. His brother was a much better option for the labour party. They will not be taken seriously until they get rid of Ed. Fact.
18 January 2012, 11:39 AM
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18 January 2012, 11:50 AM
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The worm has turned!
He goes from constantly point scoring against the opposition to finally admitting that cuts have to be made. First bit of common sense I've heard from him.
Looks like 'honesty is the the new Red' in Labour's PR camp. Still wouldn't vote for him though.
He goes from constantly point scoring against the opposition to finally admitting that cuts have to be made. First bit of common sense I've heard from him.
Looks like 'honesty is the the new Red' in Labour's PR camp. Still wouldn't vote for him though.
18 January 2012, 12:46 PM
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Conservatives spend a bit less - and public services fall apart
Labour come in and spend too much on the falling apart public services
Conservatives return....and spend a bit less - and public services fall apart
Labour returns....spend too much on the falling apart public services
Conservatives return....and spend a bit less and public services fall apart
Labour returns....spend too much on the falling apart public services
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18 January 2012, 01:50 PM
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He's still a muppet. Just shows he has not got a backbone to stand boldly upon his convictions. Look up the word "weak", you'll find his name there. Now his brother on the other hand.........
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18 January 2012, 02:45 PM
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Except you have to differentiate between spending and investing. In the 80's the Tories spent a fortune...................on unemployment benefit.
18 January 2012, 03:20 PM
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As ever his stance will be a despairing politically inspired attempt to get some kind of personal support from somewhere, or anywhere for that matter.
I think he has shot his bolt and demonstrated that he will never have the personality or personal strength to lead a political party.
Les
I think he has shot his bolt and demonstrated that he will never have the personality or personal strength to lead a political party.
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18 January 2012, 03:22 PM
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18 January 2012, 03:26 PM
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Keep voting the way that your class dictates: fool.
18 January 2012, 03:31 PM
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A fairer and more accurate analysis might look a bit like this...
Conservatives spend a bit less - and public services fall apart
Labour come in and spend too much on the falling apart public services
Conservatives return....and spend a bit less - and public services fall apart
Labour returns....spend too much on the falling apart public services
Conservatives return....and spend a bit less and public services fall apart
Labour returns....spend too much on the falling apart public services
Conservatives spend a bit less - and public services fall apart
Labour come in and spend too much on the falling apart public services
Conservatives return....and spend a bit less - and public services fall apart
Labour returns....spend too much on the falling apart public services
Conservatives return....and spend a bit less and public services fall apart
Labour returns....spend too much on the falling apart public services
18 January 2012, 06:34 PM
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Of course if Scotland does a runner (which I doubt will ever happen) then Labour are doomed as they lose around 40 Labour MPs giving Tories a clear field.
To gain some momentum then I suggest Millipede should support the third airport (the Boris one) but say it should be built in the Chilterns. Plenty of space, nice views as you come into land, no labour supporters to upset and by the time it's built then high speed access to all the fabulous places in the UK, like Birmingham
dl
To gain some momentum then I suggest Millipede should support the third airport (the Boris one) but say it should be built in the Chilterns. Plenty of space, nice views as you come into land, no labour supporters to upset and by the time it's built then high speed access to all the fabulous places in the UK, like Birmingham
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18 January 2012, 08:00 PM
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The man takes me back to my primary school days. He's like a primary school head teacher during assembly addressing all the pupils. He would never have kudos, they chose the wrong brother!
18 January 2012, 08:27 PM
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18 January 2012, 08:35 PM
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Was just thinking only today what a comical bunch of politicians we have of late.On both sides
Ed is top of my 'you can't be serious' list.My wife just says 'what a n@b' when he appears on the tv
Ed is top of my 'you can't be serious' list.My wife just says 'what a n@b' when he appears on the tv
18 January 2012, 09:39 PM
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after watching todats parlimentary hour
i just cannot beleive how this country is run,
so many mp,s out of touch, uneducated and simply tit for tat attitude.
its a real shame this is how we choose to run the country with shouting, slaggin tit for tat smack talking?
they show they have no real interest in the overall good of the nation but prefer instead to spend ther time belittleing each others polices, not working for the best of the people.
how can this sytem ever ever work, as all parties are equally as bad.
i dont support any of the inadequate parties jst now, howbever d.c did come across a bit better than the rest, but thats not talk, not real life, a few of his answers to half decent questions were just basically ingored.
im gobsmacked this is how things are discussed tbh, what a fcking shambles, the whole system needs updating and the current practices binned to the history books,
work together to help the people of thi country, not indulge in consatnd slagging matches 'millibad cant even perform a proper u-turn' who give a fck.
these people are so far detacthced from reality. im no party positive but milliband seemed to loose big time today, in the game they call running the country.
and thats just the words, not the reality of what actually happens.
change it all, entirley
i just cannot beleive how this country is run,
so many mp,s out of touch, uneducated and simply tit for tat attitude.
its a real shame this is how we choose to run the country with shouting, slaggin tit for tat smack talking?
they show they have no real interest in the overall good of the nation but prefer instead to spend ther time belittleing each others polices, not working for the best of the people.
how can this sytem ever ever work, as all parties are equally as bad.
i dont support any of the inadequate parties jst now, howbever d.c did come across a bit better than the rest, but thats not talk, not real life, a few of his answers to half decent questions were just basically ingored.
im gobsmacked this is how things are discussed tbh, what a fcking shambles, the whole system needs updating and the current practices binned to the history books,
work together to help the people of thi country, not indulge in consatnd slagging matches 'millibad cant even perform a proper u-turn' who give a fck.
these people are so far detacthced from reality. im no party positive but milliband seemed to loose big time today, in the game they call running the country.
and thats just the words, not the reality of what actually happens.
change it all, entirley
18 January 2012, 10:42 PM
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politions ALL have only one thing in mind, there own ***. they will lie cheat and steal to get in power, then blame all the faults on 'what went before'.
i have no faith in any politions.
i have no faith in any politions.
18 January 2012, 11:09 PM
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