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Old 21 December 2011, 12:44 PM
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I saw this the other day and thought I'd share it with fellow Scoobynetters,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibmcsEGLKo


Not only have a never seen the film this was taken from I also never knew Charlie Chaplin did speaking rolls, this must be one of the greatest monologues I have ever heard and really is powerfull stuff, it's also a great lesson in acting from the master of silent films!


Enjoy!

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Old 21 December 2011, 12:50 PM
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I've seen this on Facebook - Brilliant and very poignant
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Nice sentiment, well written, stirring delivery, but rhetorical and ideological and replete with propaganda statements. Also, the imagery's the product of an uneducated mind. Would be much more powerful as audio only and ironic that a filmmaker who wishes to promote a monologue, the essence of which is freedom of conscience, is attempting to tell you what to think via suggestion. Thanks for sharing.
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Was that actually Chaplin?

Interesting but still a "take up arms for peace" philosophy.

I'll stay with the "I had a dream" speech as top of my list.

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Originally Posted by David Lock
Was that actually Chaplin?

Interesting but still a "take up arms for peace" philosophy.

I'll stay with the "I had a dream" speech as top of my list.

dl
If President Lincoln had chosen passivity and employed a philosophy of moral and cultural relativism in the face of The Confederacy, Dr. king's speech would not be.

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Old 21 December 2011, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
If President Lincoln had chosen passivity and employed a philosophy of moral and cultural relativism in the face of The Confederacy, Dr. king's speech would not be.

do you mean da ****** still be gettin beat down? say it ain't so mon
Old 21 December 2011, 03:26 PM
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Get hold of some of Hitler's speeches if you want to see someone working the crowd
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Obama - awesome speeches, **** poor Govt unfortunately ...

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Here is a selection to choose from...

Greatest Speeches



Other great speech makers Obama, Hitler as mentioned, and McCain after he lost the US election.
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I think it's important to draw a distinction between the delivery and the content, the orator and the writer, the rhetoric and the reason.
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Still not as good as

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDt...eature=related
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I love the juxtaposition between Colonel Tim Collins wonderful speech and his opposite number in the US armed forces, on the eve of the invasion of Iraq in 2003

Tim Collins

It starts

“We go to Iraq to liberate not to conquer. We will not fly our flags in their country. We are entering Iraq to free a people and the only flag which will be flown in that ancient land is their own. Show respect for them.

There are some who are alive at this moment who will not be alive shortly. Those who do not wish to go on that journey, we will not send. As for the others I expect you to rock their world. Wipe them out if that is what they choose. But if you are ferocious in battle remember to be magnanimous in victory.”


And carries on in the same well crafted vein for several minutes


US Vice-Admiral Timothy Keating

It start (it ends)

"Make no mistake, when the President says `Go', look out, it's hammer time. OK, it is hammer time".

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Originally Posted by specialx
I saw this the other day and thought I'd share it with fellow Scoobynetters,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibmcsEGLKo


Not only have a never seen the film this was taken from I also never knew Charlie Chaplin did speaking rolls, this must be one of the greatest monologues I have ever heard and really is powerfull stuff, it's also a great lesson in acting from the master of silent films!


Enjoy!

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Finally got to watch it - unlike JT I quite enjoyed the imagery, but thought the speech shallow and the delivery was OK but it didn't move me particularly.

There was little substance and the speaker did not need to give anything of himself, and the speech made no commitment to anything.

King was far better; also JFK.
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
I love the juxtaposition between Colonel Tim Collins wonderful speech and his opposite number in the US armed forces, on the eve of the invasion of Iraq in 2003

Tim Collins

It starts

“We go to Iraq to liberate not to conquer. We will not fly our flags in their country. We are entering Iraq to free a people and the only flag which will be flown in that ancient land is their own. Show respect for them.

There are some who are alive at this moment who will not be alive shortly. Those who do not wish to go on that journey, we will not send. As for the others I expect you to rock their world. Wipe them out if that is what they choose. But if you are ferocious in battle remember to be magnanimous in victory.”


And carries on in the same well crafted vein for several minutes


US Vice-Admiral Timothy Keating

It start (it ends)

"Make no mistake, when the President says `Go', look out, it's hammer time. OK, it is hammer time".
Well, they are the younger sibling.
Old 21 December 2011, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Finally got to watch it - unlike JT I quite enjoyed the imagery, but thought the speech shallow and the delivery was OK but it didn't move me particularly.

There was little substance and the speaker did not need to give anything of himself, and the speech made no commitment to anything.

King was far better; also JFK.
Among other things I described the speech as sentimental, rhetorical, ideological and replete with propaganda statements - hardly a glowing critique. The imagery may vaguely reflect the 'producer's' interpretation of the words, but actually, when you shine a light on it, it's immature and vacuous.
Old 21 December 2011, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Finally got to watch it - unlike JT I quite enjoyed the imagery, but thought the speech shallow and the delivery was OK but it didn't move me particularly.

There was little substance and the speaker did not need to give anything of himself, and the speech made no commitment to anything.

King was far better; also JFK.
it's from a film (The Great Dictator) so not real
Old 21 December 2011, 10:50 PM
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Doesn't really count as a speech but I found Geo Galloway's performance at that US tribunal/questioning the most enjoyable. dl
Old 21 December 2011, 11:06 PM
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You're all forgetting the greatest speech (and salute) in history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUdB8gCMcXI
Old 21 December 2011, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
it's from a film (The Great Dictator) so not real

Is it?!!!!


I realise that - my point was that it wasn't impactful to me and so I am not convinced it wasthat well acted - i never once suspended my disbelief
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2

“We go to Iraq to liberate not to conquer. We will not fly our flags in their country. We are entering Iraq to free a people and the only flag which will be flown in that ancient land is their own. Show respect for them.
oh really?

Old 22 December 2011, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DonNedly
oh really?

Re-read Hodgy's post.
Old 22 December 2011, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Get hold of some of Hitler's speeches if you want to see someone working the crowd
The eventual result has to be also put at the feet of the crowd too!

Les
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My vote goes here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7rU7NqkDLU
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One of the best sporting battle cries ever.

"I am now going to tell him (Herrera) how Celtic will be the first team to bring the European Cup back to Britain. But it will not help him in any manner, shape or form: we are going to attack as we have never attacked before. Cups are not won by individuals, but by men in a team who put their club before personal prestige. I am lucky - I have the players who do just that for Celtic"
Jock Stein 23rd May 1967
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For me personally this man had all the right things to say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjuiM...e_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U56WR...e_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0t-R...e_gdata_player
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