Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

Selling a Stolen & Recovered Car

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 14 December 2011, 09:10 AM
  #1  
Terzo 333
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Terzo 333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,764
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question Selling a Stolen & Recovered Car

I am selling a car that I had stolen, which then got recovered a couple of weeks later. I never got paid out, other than a few wheels and tyres that were damaged.

Does the law say I have to tell potential buyers or is it "buyer beware" ?

A HPI check does show the car has been stolen and recovered.
Old 14 December 2011, 09:11 AM
  #2  
tubbytommy
BANNED
iTrader: (20)
 
tubbytommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: crawley :)
Posts: 16,950
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

not 100% sure but the same happened to me years back but as the insurance didnt pay out i dont think it counts
Old 14 December 2011, 09:27 AM
  #3  
The Zohan
Scooby Regular
 
The Zohan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Disco, Disco!
Posts: 21,825
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It sounds like it was not written off so should not be a problem. important thing is to be honest with the potential buyers - given it shows up an a HPI check.
Old 14 December 2011, 09:37 AM
  #4  
every1sgottablue1
Scooby Regular
 
every1sgottablue1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: In front of my computer
Posts: 1,696
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ditto!
Old 14 December 2011, 09:38 AM
  #5  
MOTORS S GT
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
MOTORS S GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northampton
Posts: 1,253
Likes: 0
Received 34 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

That's nice of the insurance company, not paying out, but putting your car on the hpi list as stolen recovered, further devalueing your car, a double kick in the knacks.
Old 14 December 2011, 11:28 AM
  #6  
Scooby Dan
Scooby Regular
 
Scooby Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 825
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If no payout was made by the insurance give hpi a call . They will check with the insurance company and if no payout was made they may remove it from the register .
Old 14 December 2011, 12:06 PM
  #7  
brendy76
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
brendy76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bangor Co. Down.
Posts: 1,652
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Terzo 333
I am selling a car that I had stolen, which then got recovered a couple of weeks later.
Did anyone else read that another way?
Old 14 December 2011, 12:18 PM
  #8  
SJ_Skyline
Scooby Senior
 
SJ_Skyline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Limbo
Posts: 21,922
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by brendy76
Did anyone else read that another way?

Yes
Old 14 December 2011, 12:43 PM
  #9  
GC8
Scooby Regular
 
GC8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sheffield; Rome of the North
Posts: 17,582
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Terzo 333
I am selling a car that I had stolen, which then got recovered a couple of weeks later. I never got paid out, other than a few wheels and tyres that were damaged.

Does the law say I have to tell potential buyers or is it "buyer beware" ?

A HPI check does show the car has been stolen and recovered.

Hello Matt, was this an AUDI S4 or S6? If they didnt pay out for a total loss then it shouldnt be recorded. Actually getting the insurers to deal with the problem can be difficult though.


Simon
Old 14 December 2011, 01:50 PM
  #10  
speedking
Scooby Regular
 
speedking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Stolen, ragged round, recovered, repaired. What difference does it make whether there was an insurance payout? The value of the car is still affected in many buyers' eyes.
Old 14 December 2011, 03:02 PM
  #11  
Steve vRS
Scooby Regular
 
Steve vRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Dull White BMW
Posts: 5,052
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by speedking
Stolen, ragged round, recovered, repaired.
Just remove the words 'Stolen' and 'recovered' and that could be any car.

Steve
Old 14 December 2011, 06:55 PM
  #12  
Terzo 333
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Terzo 333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,764
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GC8
Hello Matt, was this an AUDI S4 or S6? If they didnt pay out for a total loss then it shouldnt be recorded. Actually getting the insurers to deal with the problem can be difficult though.


Simon
Hi Simon,

It was my RS4 that was stolen a couple of years ago. I have asked my insurance broker if he can get the stolen and recovered removed but he says not

So the general consensus is don't mention unless asked ??
Old 14 December 2011, 07:42 PM
  #13  
Jamescsti
Scooby Regular
 
Jamescsti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,016
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I would be really annoyed if I came to look at the car and then got a hpi done which I always do and found out it had been stolen recovered, no way I would touch the car as I would wonder what else the seller is hiding.
For me it should be declared up front, someone would have to be a lunatic to buy an rs4 without getting a hpi done
Old 14 December 2011, 07:58 PM
  #14  
rev.chris
Scooby Regular
 
rev.chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: south west
Posts: 437
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jamescsti
I would be really annoyed if I came to look at the car and then got a hpi done which I always do and found out it had been stolen recovered, no way I would touch the car as I would wonder what else the seller is hiding.
For me it should be declared up front, someone would have to be a lunatic to buy an rs4 without getting a hpi done
i with u on this, ide be asking a lot off questions on the car before i hpi an go look at it, if owner didn't say anything an hpi showed up something i wouldn't trust owner an wouldn't buy,

if u got the car back an got everything sorted propperly it wouldn't put me off, what second hand high performance car hasnt been threased some point in its life,
Old 15 December 2011, 03:35 AM
  #15  
GC8
Scooby Regular
 
GC8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sheffield; Rome of the North
Posts: 17,582
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Terzo 333
Hi Simon,

It was my RS4 that was stolen a couple of years ago. I have asked my insurance broker if he can get the stolen and recovered removed but he says not

So the general consensus is don't mention unless asked ??
Difficult certainly, but it shouldnt be recorded if youre keeping it, in the same way that a repaired accident damaged car shouldnt be recorded.

They obviously put it on when it was assessed, expecting that youd not be having it back. You wont be able to sort it out talking to a call centre certainly, but Im sure that there is provision for correcting mistakes. If their complaints procedure fails you can ask the ombudsman...

I wouldnt say, but anyone buying an RS4 will HPI it. You can text check for £3 now, so who wouldnt? I would be fighting the insurance company though.
Old 15 December 2011, 11:08 AM
  #16  
fivetide
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
fivetide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Central Scotland
Posts: 3,687
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Terzo 333
Hi Simon,

It was my RS4 that was stolen a couple of years ago. I have asked my insurance broker if he can get the stolen and recovered removed but he says not

So the general consensus is don't mention unless asked ??
No honesty the best policy.

I'd HPI the car before buying and walk away as soon as it came up. I'd mark you as a liar and wouldn't trust you at all about anything to do with the car.

I suspect most people will do a check. Also it can affect the next person's insurance as it'll be marked so even if they don't HPI it chances are they'll find out and come looking. You might find yourself with a very upset buyer and a small claims appearance for deliberately concealing info that would have affected the decision to purchase.

5t.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Iqy7861
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
22
12 October 2015 09:21 AM
ossett2k2
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
15
23 September 2015 09:11 AM
Milan-San Remo
Subaru Parts
7
13 September 2015 08:43 PM
ossett2k2
General Technical
9
13 September 2015 09:35 AM
alcazar
Other Marques
9
09 September 2015 05:42 PM



Quick Reply: Selling a Stolen & Recovered Car



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:36 AM.