pslewis

Is it fair on those who have taken hits on their private pensions?

Should the strikers be taught that they are very lucky to have what they have?

The wife has been called out by the GMB ... only 33% actually bothered to vote and it was a majority of that low figure. I cannot see how that is overwhelming?

Anyway, I believe that they are genuinely cheesed off .... but, I have had to take a hit on my Pension fund, I have had my contributions increase by 6%!!!

What's your opinions?

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Maybe every private sector worker should go on strike the day all the public sector go back to work....

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

That the Public Sector have been made into the "Jews" of this recession, whereby it's their fault, and they are now vilified and demonised daily in rags like the Express.

And once demonised and vilified, it's OK to nick their pensions, earnings, jobs etc, just like it was OK for the ***** in the 1930's.

Watch out.............YOU could be next.

Jimbob

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Sack the lot, there are LOADS of people (like me) who are unemployed, and would love a semi secure job for life.

I`ve worked in the public sector in local government, and seen the chronic waste. Its always the people high up on super wages who keep their jobs and the people at the coal face delivering the services who are shat on, and thats NOT to do with the Government, its these pencil/paper pushers who sap the money and life out of departments. As the majority have no idea how the real world works, and base their poxy lives on the courses they went on, or the socialist drivel they read in Uni, that everyone is born equal but some are more equal than others. Animal Farm (the original) is so much like local government its unreal. And they all want to keep their noses in the trough for as long as possible, doing as little as possible, and claiming to do the job because they "care".

David Lock

Perhaps HMG could promise to keep pensions exactly as they are but only pay for a year or so after retirement based on average life expectancy at the time their pension rules were set up?

I have very little sympathy. dl

DYK

tarmac terror

iTrader: (2)

I find it ironic that the private sector workers who would judge their public sector counterparts as being somehow inferior in their skills and abilities and work ethic, would now happily accept a public sector as the private sector has fallen to its knees.

Bottom line is that everyone has made their own choice of where to work, for their own reasons and their own motives. When you make your choice, you accept the consequences.

TinyTim

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Means i'll get an extra day off to look after (read: play) with my son.


WIN.

wrx300scooby

Here he goes again

f1_fan

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Whilst I am never in favour of stirkes and the likes anythng that makes life harder for Cameron is OK by me so bring it on!!!

Gordo

a) you've made half of this up

b) the other half is bollocks



Pathetic that the public sector who are on higher average pay than the private sector think they should also have gold plated pensions - and are prepared to damage the economy yet further to cling on to that fatuous 'right'. Sack as many as poss as quickly as poss.

ScoobyDoo555

My understanding of the matter is that all was fine until the Public Sector pension pot, of which is/was ring-fenced was under threat.
The current Government want to dive into this pot to (that has been paid in to by contributions etc).

IF this is the case, then that is not fair.

Taking away the debate about public vs private sector pros/cons (boils down to you choose which job to do - if you're not happy with your current position, change jobs!)

This looks like it's just wrong.


AND tbh, I don't think striking is the answer (and no, I won't be striking either)

Dan

*I'm not a union-member, nor are my pension concerns anything to do with this current outfit.

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Of course its not fair.....didn't stop Gordon Brown doing it to the private sector through £100 Billion of it via stealth tax, not only impairing people's future but placing ever increasing stress on the economic strength of UK businesses to cover the shortfall: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...0-billion.html

And this is why so many private sector workers don't have much sympathy...because we've already had our pensions plundered. Maybe people should have protested more back then, but then I think alot of people were still under the grand illusion that everything was all ok back then. Its only now when the chickens have come home to roost that they want to lash out. Horse. Stable. Bolted.

alcazar

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Or better still, perhaps they could GIVE BACK the pension pots they "borrowed" when they PROMISED to pay pensions for LG workers IN PERPETUITY, out of taxes?

Maybe cutting aid to Indai and China and some of the more unscrupulous states might allow more for pensions, eh?

Or how about getting out of, and not INTO ANY MORE wars?

alcazar

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Woops, wrong.

WHAT LG pension pot?

They were ALL borrowed afaik by previous governments, going back YEARS in some cases, the agreement being that if WE gave THEM our pension pot, plus future contributions to use as they saw fit, THEY would pay OUR pensions out of taxes in perpetuity.

Now they have had the money, but prefer to give China and India, plus sundry other states, foreign aid, or to go to war, rather than pay our pensions?

Plus they STILL expect LG workers to give them even more money in pensions to fund it?

And you can't see that we should get annoyed?

The latest bit of anti Public Sector workers propaganda says, "Well, the money's spent! Hard luck. Where do you want us to get more from?"

Disgusting. PS workers: the Jews of the 21st century.

f1_fan

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Now come on alcazar we all know that is all and only Gordon Brown's fault, please don't dare bring other governments into this as otherwise certain people here will have a hissy fit!!!

Leslie

Seems a very reasonable take to me.

Les

DYK

Lets all Join the Foreign Legion..