Cyclist and Car (s)
23 November 2011, 08:24 PM
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23 November 2011, 09:42 PM
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Been doing the rounds this, I put it on Pistonheads, it is scary riding a bike, I got overtaken by a Ranger Rover tonight on a country road, swear it was doing about 80 and overtook me a metre or so away, well lit and visible but left that amount of distance, certain death for me and I suspect he or she would have fooked off sharpish.
23 November 2011, 09:51 PM
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I watched it until the very first thing he said was 'got you on camera, got your insurance details' and that is as far as I can be bothered with....it's awful that he got knocked down, but I am sick of seeing these helmet cam videos.... there is a psychology at work with people who wear them to be frank!
I know this post won't be popular, but I have never worried about that before!
I know this post won't be popular, but I have never worried about that before!
23 November 2011, 10:28 PM
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I am a cyclist and have for many years ridden a motorcycle as well, I feel that the new generation of urban cyclists really need to wise up and think about how they are riding. It seems that many are just hell bent on maintaining momentum at the expense of being a little more cautious.
We all know that having to slow down on a bike is a pain because of the effort it takes to get back up to speed again, but they have to realise that they just don’t have the same road presence as bigger vehicles and as such are not as visible.
Looking at the amount of traffic movements going on around that junction in the video, I would have been riding a bit more cautiously whether on a bike or a motorbike. As far as I could see the cyclist did not slow down and whilst the car driver was clearly in the wrong the cyclist had not assessed the potential dangers ahead. I suppose many cyclists now think that helmet cam is a better alternative to defensive riding.
We all know that having to slow down on a bike is a pain because of the effort it takes to get back up to speed again, but they have to realise that they just don’t have the same road presence as bigger vehicles and as such are not as visible.
Looking at the amount of traffic movements going on around that junction in the video, I would have been riding a bit more cautiously whether on a bike or a motorbike. As far as I could see the cyclist did not slow down and whilst the car driver was clearly in the wrong the cyclist had not assessed the potential dangers ahead. I suppose many cyclists now think that helmet cam is a better alternative to defensive riding.
23 November 2011, 10:32 PM
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I am a cyclist and have for many years ridden a motorcycle as well, I feel that the new generation of urban cyclists really need to wise up and think about how they are riding. It seems that many are just hell bent on maintaining momentum at the expense of being a little more cautious.
We all know that having to slow down on a bike is a pain because of the effort it takes to get back up to speed again, but they have to realise that they just don’t have the same road presence as bigger vehicles and as such are not as visible.
Looking at the amount of traffic movements going on around that junction in the video, I would have been riding a bit more cautiously whether on a bike or a motorbike. As far as I could see the cyclist did not slow down and whilst the car driver was clearly in the wrong the cyclist had not assessed the potential dangers ahead. I suppose many cyclists now think that helmet cam is a better alternative to defensive riding.
We all know that having to slow down on a bike is a pain because of the effort it takes to get back up to speed again, but they have to realise that they just don’t have the same road presence as bigger vehicles and as such are not as visible.
Looking at the amount of traffic movements going on around that junction in the video, I would have been riding a bit more cautiously whether on a bike or a motorbike. As far as I could see the cyclist did not slow down and whilst the car driver was clearly in the wrong the cyclist had not assessed the potential dangers ahead. I suppose many cyclists now think that helmet cam is a better alternative to defensive riding.
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23 November 2011, 11:24 PM
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I am a cyclist and have for many years ridden a motorcycle as well, I feel that the new generation of urban cyclists really need to wise up and think about how they are riding. It seems that many are just hell bent on maintaining momentum at the expense of being a little more cautious.
We all know that having to slow down on a bike is a pain because of the effort it takes to get back up to speed again, but they have to realise that they just don’t have the same road presence as bigger vehicles and as such are not as visible.
Looking at the amount of traffic movements going on around that junction in the video, I would have been riding a bit more cautiously whether on a bike or a motorbike. As far as I could see the cyclist did not slow down and whilst the car driver was clearly in the wrong the cyclist had not assessed the potential dangers ahead. I suppose many cyclists now think that helmet cam is a better alternative to defensive riding.
We all know that having to slow down on a bike is a pain because of the effort it takes to get back up to speed again, but they have to realise that they just don’t have the same road presence as bigger vehicles and as such are not as visible.
Looking at the amount of traffic movements going on around that junction in the video, I would have been riding a bit more cautiously whether on a bike or a motorbike. As far as I could see the cyclist did not slow down and whilst the car driver was clearly in the wrong the cyclist had not assessed the potential dangers ahead. I suppose many cyclists now think that helmet cam is a better alternative to defensive riding.
Agree there may be an element of that, and momentum is hard won but you wouldn't make any progress if you spent all your time trying to mitigate some cretin who, in full view turns across you and then some daft bint who it happens directly in front of and still doesn't see, there is an element of drivers maintaining momentum in this clip as well, so perhaps it should be all road users should favour safety over keeping moving ?
24 November 2011, 12:43 AM
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I only watched part, as it was too long and I was doing other stuff.
Other than that, I find the attitude of some motorists to cyclists is a bloody joke.
Yesterday, I was aproaching a left turn. I had a lady cyclist in front of me, with "saddle bags". She was quite wide, (not her hips), the stuff she had attached to the rear of her cycle. I knew I was turning left real soon and there was an island, close the the turn.
This AR$E in a pug, was right on my tail, as usual. I slowed right down to let the lady pass my turn, as she was going straight on, and the cheeky git in the pug, parped at me.
He got the length of my finger.
He then went on his merry way, and nearly took the poor lass off her bike when he overtook her, as he sped up.
I was so close to following him and giving him a smack in the face, the ignorant pig
Other than that, I find the attitude of some motorists to cyclists is a bloody joke.
Yesterday, I was aproaching a left turn. I had a lady cyclist in front of me, with "saddle bags". She was quite wide, (not her hips), the stuff she had attached to the rear of her cycle. I knew I was turning left real soon and there was an island, close the the turn.
This AR$E in a pug, was right on my tail, as usual. I slowed right down to let the lady pass my turn, as she was going straight on, and the cheeky git in the pug, parped at me.
He got the length of my finger.
He then went on his merry way, and nearly took the poor lass off her bike when he overtook her, as he sped up.
I was so close to following him and giving him a smack in the face, the ignorant pig
24 November 2011, 07:14 AM
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I am a cyclist and have for many years ridden a motorcycle as well, I feel that the new generation of urban cyclists really need to wise up and think about how they are riding. It seems that many are just hell bent on maintaining momentum at the expense of being a little more cautious.
We all know that having to slow down on a bike is a pain because of the effort it takes to get back up to speed again, but they have to realise that they just don’t have the same road presence as bigger vehicles and as such are not as visible.
Looking at the amount of traffic movements going on around that junction in the video, I would have been riding a bit more cautiously whether on a bike or a motorbike. As far as I could see the cyclist did not slow down and whilst the car driver was clearly in the wrong the cyclist had not assessed the potential dangers ahead. I suppose many cyclists now think that helmet cam is a better alternative to defensive riding.
We all know that having to slow down on a bike is a pain because of the effort it takes to get back up to speed again, but they have to realise that they just don’t have the same road presence as bigger vehicles and as such are not as visible.
Looking at the amount of traffic movements going on around that junction in the video, I would have been riding a bit more cautiously whether on a bike or a motorbike. As far as I could see the cyclist did not slow down and whilst the car driver was clearly in the wrong the cyclist had not assessed the potential dangers ahead. I suppose many cyclists now think that helmet cam is a better alternative to defensive riding.
PS Will not visit this thread again as we all know it will turn out
24 November 2011, 08:07 AM
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The overarching impression the footage left me with is that, contrary to long held beliefs and principles, there are occasions when violence towards women can be justified. Her indignant squealing hurt my soul.
24 November 2011, 08:27 AM
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He did seem to want to be a victim in some of his videos.
However, I am still shocked at the levels of driving standards around cyclists.....yet horse riders never seem to suffer such levels of anger and hatred.
However, I am still shocked at the levels of driving standards around cyclists.....yet horse riders never seem to suffer such levels of anger and hatred.
24 November 2011, 09:25 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ex6d...layer_embedded
24 November 2011, 10:08 AM
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You have to wonder about some people.
Why should it matter that she is using loads of fuel accelerating and braking?
Also at 2.06/2.07 a guy peels off into a side road in what I swear is the wrong side of the road.
Bad driving happens where ever those guys are.
Why should it matter that she is using loads of fuel accelerating and braking?
Also at 2.06/2.07 a guy peels off into a side road in what I swear is the wrong side of the road.
Bad driving happens where ever those guys are.
24 November 2011, 10:18 AM
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A man cycling along a road (with his lights on, allegedly) gets knocked down by a car turning in front of him then, while he's on the ground gets his foot run over by another car.
And it's his, the victim's fault, ... or partly or mostly his fault??
There's something seriously wrong with some of you.
And it's his, the victim's fault, ... or partly or mostly his fault??
There's something seriously wrong with some of you.
24 November 2011, 10:49 AM
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Don’t think anyone is suggesting it’s his fault the driver was obviously to blame. The suggestion is that as a particularly vulnerable road user you need to take more precautions for your own safety. Anyone on two wheels involved in an accident with a larger vehicle is always going to come off worse.
Helmet cam technology will most likely help with claims for liability, compensation or gain youtube kudos, but at the end of the day it’s still the cyclist lying in the gutter.
Helmet cam technology will most likely help with claims for liability, compensation or gain youtube kudos, but at the end of the day it’s still the cyclist lying in the gutter.
24 November 2011, 10:54 AM
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A man cycling along a road (with his lights on, allegedly) gets knocked down by a car turning in front of him then, while he's on the ground gets his foot run over by another car.
And it's his, the victim's fault, ... or partly or mostly his fault??
There's something seriously wrong with some of you.
And it's his, the victim's fault, ... or partly or mostly his fault??
There's something seriously wrong with some of you.
For me, if I were in his position i'd have been braking approaching that junction:
A) He's carrying some speed, and thus, momentum.
B) 2 cars have already pulled across and entered the side road in front of him, and the third (which hits him) is still moving.
Now, tell me in that situation, in a car, you wouldn't have AT LEAST let off the accelerator? Maybe even slowed slightly using the foot brake?
Now, given that the bloke is on a bike, with all but a piece of hard foam and plastic covering the top of his head, is either a little bit daft, or a hard *******.
24 November 2011, 11:07 AM
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Can I suggest you read into the comments a little better?
For me, if I were in his position i'd have been braking approaching that junction:
A) He's carrying some speed, and thus, momentum.
B) 2 cars have already pulled across and entered the side road in front of him, and the third (which hits him) is still moving.
Now, tell me in that situation, in a car, you wouldn't have AT LEAST let off the accelerator? Maybe even slowed slightly using the foot brake?
Now, given that the bloke is on a bike, with all but a piece of hard foam and plastic covering the top of his head, is either a little bit daft, or a hard *******.
For me, if I were in his position i'd have been braking approaching that junction:
A) He's carrying some speed, and thus, momentum.
B) 2 cars have already pulled across and entered the side road in front of him, and the third (which hits him) is still moving.
Now, tell me in that situation, in a car, you wouldn't have AT LEAST let off the accelerator? Maybe even slowed slightly using the foot brake?
Now, given that the bloke is on a bike, with all but a piece of hard foam and plastic covering the top of his head, is either a little bit daft, or a hard *******.
Why they can't do the same for cars is beyond me.
Trust me, you WILL lose.
The woman in the video was clearly at fault, but the cyclist easily had enough time to slow down or avoid.
24 November 2011, 11:21 AM
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A man cycling along a road (with his lights on, allegedly) gets knocked down by a car turning in front of him then, while he's on the ground gets his foot run over by another car.
And it's his, the victim's fault, ... or partly or mostly his fault??
There's something seriously wrong with some of you.
And it's his, the victim's fault, ... or partly or mostly his fault??
There's something seriously wrong with some of you.
24 November 2011, 11:26 AM
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Can I suggest you read into the comments a little better?
For me, if I were in his position i'd have been braking approaching that junction:
A) He's carrying some speed, and thus, momentum.
B) 2 cars have already pulled across and entered the side road in front of him, and the third (which hits him) is still moving.
Now, tell me in that situation, in a car, you wouldn't have AT LEAST let off the accelerator? Maybe even slowed slightly using the foot brake?
Now, given that the bloke is on a bike, with all but a piece of hard foam and plastic covering the top of his head, is either a little bit daft, or a hard *******.
For me, if I were in his position i'd have been braking approaching that junction:
A) He's carrying some speed, and thus, momentum.
B) 2 cars have already pulled across and entered the side road in front of him, and the third (which hits him) is still moving.
Now, tell me in that situation, in a car, you wouldn't have AT LEAST let off the accelerator? Maybe even slowed slightly using the foot brake?
Now, given that the bloke is on a bike, with all but a piece of hard foam and plastic covering the top of his head, is either a little bit daft, or a hard *******.
24 November 2011, 11:32 AM
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24 November 2011, 11:39 AM
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11 mins worth of film that could have been dealt with in 1 min. Im not getting involved because I'm sure I had a ding dong on here about a year ago with the cycle apologists.
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24 November 2011, 11:53 AM
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http://youtu.be/QSiBVTtrS1w
Just thought I'd add this one for the entertainment of all who frequent scoobynet. Reading out number plates to himself, he ought to concentrate on the road.
Just thought I'd add this one for the entertainment of all who frequent scoobynet. Reading out number plates to himself, he ought to concentrate on the road.