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17 September 2011, 09:28 AM
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I couldn't possibly comment but I hear that the Dutch are getting fed up with EU citizens, particularly Poles, settling in Holland, not working but just taking advantage of the social infrastructure. Basically if they are not working they want to send them packing.
The cause of friction and resentment in many countries - not least the UK - but the feeling is now supported by some in the Dutch Govt who are seeking support from other EC countries saying that EC Free Movement rules were not designed for the current situation.
A can of worms of course but it will be interesting to see how it develops especially in view of our hefty benefits bill in these straightened times. I can see Clegg exploding which may be no bad thing in itself
Anyway something to cheer us xenophobes up for the weekend
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The cause of friction and resentment in many countries - not least the UK - but the feeling is now supported by some in the Dutch Govt who are seeking support from other EC countries saying that EC Free Movement rules were not designed for the current situation.
A can of worms of course but it will be interesting to see how it develops especially in view of our hefty benefits bill in these straightened times. I can see Clegg exploding which may be no bad thing in itself
Anyway something to cheer us xenophobes up for the weekend
dl
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17 September 2011, 10:00 AM
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I agree entirely with send those who who do not have a job - it's a win-win!
cannot see this government having the ***** to push for this mind...
17 September 2011, 10:01 AM
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EC generally seem to be imploding as they are incapable of fixing the financial mess that they have landed themselves in. Interesting times.
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17 September 2011, 12:11 PM
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: IT AIN'T THE EC, IT'S OUR GOVERNMENT.The others chuck 'em out at will, the Italians, French and Dutch have already done so, in part.
The other states put rules and regs in place before opening the gates. Lying Labour didn't, they welcomed all, as some sort of social experiment.
What we need is NOT to leave the EC, but to do as the others do and LOOK AFTER NUMBER ONE!
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17 September 2011, 04:05 PM
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17 September 2011, 05:22 PM
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I have no problem with people coming over here to work, and in my personal experience of immigrants, of all persuasions, most are here to do just that
Form what I can see, all that would happen if we kicked the immigrants out is that those of use who do get out and work will only have more of it piled on us, because the vast army of homegrown parasites have no intention of working for a living
We have three Poles, and another guy from Senegal, at work, all honest hard workers, and also good fun to have around
Unlike the thieving, workshy, British tossers they replaced
Form what I can see, all that would happen if we kicked the immigrants out is that those of use who do get out and work will only have more of it piled on us, because the vast army of homegrown parasites have no intention of working for a living
We have three Poles, and another guy from Senegal, at work, all honest hard workers, and also good fun to have around
Unlike the thieving, workshy, British tossers they replaced
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I have no problem with people coming over here to work, and in my personal experience of immigrants, of all persuasions, most are here to do just that
Form what I can see, all that would happen if we kicked the immigrants out is that those of use who do get out and work will only have more of it piled on us, because the vast army of homegrown parasites have no intention of working for a living
We have three Poles, and another guy from Senegal, at work, all honest hard workers, and also good fun to have around
Unlike the thieving, workshy, British tossers they replaced
Form what I can see, all that would happen if we kicked the immigrants out is that those of use who do get out and work will only have more of it piled on us, because the vast army of homegrown parasites have no intention of working for a living
We have three Poles, and another guy from Senegal, at work, all honest hard workers, and also good fun to have around
Unlike the thieving, workshy, British tossers they replaced
Where could your average Brit go to earn four times his wage? And that's assuming he could actually get into the country if there was such a place.
17 September 2011, 06:47 PM
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As I've said, we're better off out!
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17 September 2011, 07:23 PM
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at my work, we have had cctv put in as things kepted going missing, yes the polls work hard there, but if it isnt nailed down, they would try and nick it.
have see it all with them, selling fake perfume, vodka, fuel that they have brought back from germany to sell, you name it, they can get a copy/scam of it.
have see it all with them, selling fake perfume, vodka, fuel that they have brought back from germany to sell, you name it, they can get a copy/scam of it.
17 September 2011, 07:32 PM
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I don't know any foreigners thats don't work? Infact most work harder, longer and better than the locals. Is this not just undercover xenophobia?
Personally I just hate the *******s cus they are smelly.
Personally I just hate the *******s cus they are smelly.
17 September 2011, 08:28 PM
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17 September 2011, 09:55 PM
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cant we just make welfare state an insurance policy so if you dont pay in you cant draw out
up until age 18 you claim on your parents policy.
you need to have paid in for 5 years to be able to claim including health care and education. before 5 years you pay or you have an insurance policy that pays, if no policy and money for critical health care we recharge your home country and send you back as soon as well enough to travel.
size of contributions dont effect cover as long as you are a working tax payer you get equal access to benefits
Its a starting point for a policy just needs fine tuning the problem is the millions fiddling the system will never vote for it
up until age 18 you claim on your parents policy.
you need to have paid in for 5 years to be able to claim including health care and education. before 5 years you pay or you have an insurance policy that pays, if no policy and money for critical health care we recharge your home country and send you back as soon as well enough to travel.
size of contributions dont effect cover as long as you are a working tax payer you get equal access to benefits
Its a starting point for a policy just needs fine tuning the problem is the millions fiddling the system will never vote for it
17 September 2011, 10:03 PM
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That's because their getting paid four times the wage that they could earn in Poland or Senegal if not more, so of course they are hard workers.
Where could your average Brit go to earn four times his wage? And that's assuming he could actually get into the country if there was such a place.
Where could your average Brit go to earn four times his wage? And that's assuming he could actually get into the country if there was such a place.
18 September 2011, 01:22 PM
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Glasga does indeed have a very valid point. The above wide-brished statement is quite offensive to whites - there are plenty of other ethnic UK born benefit spongers too, so there is no need to single out a group of people because of their colour.
F1 - care to edit it to make it more wiser and non-discriminate as per our NSR sticky, so we can get back on with the original topic at hand?
F1 - care to edit it to make it more wiser and non-discriminate as per our NSR sticky, so we can get back on with the original topic at hand?
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Glasga does indeed have a very valid point. The above wide-brished statement is quite offensive to whites - there are plenty of other ethnic UK born benefit spongers too, so there is no need to single out a group of people because of their colour.
F1 - care to edit it to make it more wiser and non-discriminate as per our NSR sticky, so we can get back on with the original topic at hand?
F1 - care to edit it to make it more wiser and non-discriminate as per our NSR sticky, so we can get back on with the original topic at hand?
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18 September 2011, 04:39 PM
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By the way, I did not say anything about wishing posts to be removed. It was more about being even-handed. Anyway, it seems this has been achieved in a different way.
About immigration I have always had the same opinion. There should not be any incentive to come here and be looked after in any way, shape, or form. Other than that, there's nothing wrong with it. It shouldn't be encouraged or discouraged.
18 September 2011, 04:40 PM
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Probably for the same reason mine was - ie it referenced Chris's comments.
Btw, Ms Jock was reading through this pre "trimming" and, being an Aussie, said "What's a "sponger"?". I explained and she said, "Awe, gotcha, you mean a "Dole bludger"!
Btw, Ms Jock was reading through this pre "trimming" and, being an Aussie, said "What's a "sponger"?". I explained and she said, "Awe, gotcha, you mean a "Dole bludger"!
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