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View Poll Results: Dalight running lights, love 'em or loathe 'em?
Love 'em, wish my Scoob had them.
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Don't care either way.
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Don't care either way, but find they can be a distraction
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"Fairy lights" on new cars? Love 'em or hate 'em?

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Old 13 September 2011, 11:05 AM
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Default "Fairy lights" on new cars? Love 'em or hate 'em?

The rage for putting a row of white LEDS on new cars, and some older models

What does it do for you, if anything? Personally I loathe them and find them a distraction, especially around dusk.

Just come back from 3 months in France, and was constantly annoyed by the Dutch cars with headlights on all day. EVERY one I saw got me wondering............
Old 13 September 2011, 11:15 AM
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i feel its as much to do with the satisfying the small minded occupant whose purchased his audi etc in a vein attempt to climb the social hierarchy
Old 13 September 2011, 11:21 AM
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I find is is very irritating and given the chance I would ask the driver what else he got for Christmas!

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Old 13 September 2011, 11:22 AM
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Better get used to them mate becomming law on all new cars built from a certain date.dont mind them on certain cars but the vertical ones on some cars -is it citreons ?? just look so wrong !!

Cant beat the ones on the Audi R8 lovely and no doubt what started the afermarket trend ??!!
Old 13 September 2011, 12:11 PM
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Initially when I first saw them on some high end Audi's etc. I thought they were cool, now I couldn't care, too common and most of the cars with them on are driven by w*nkers (i.e. sat 1ft from my bumper at *70mph* in the outside lane of the motorway while I'm overtaking a lorry, **** off!)
Old 13 September 2011, 12:26 PM
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My missus loves fairy lights and has a set of light up antlers on her scoob at xmas

I doubt she would be a wise choice to contribute to this poll
Old 13 September 2011, 12:45 PM
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Usually it just announces a **** rocket in a diesel A5

Its like those "Angel Eyes" on new BMW's, looked pretty good for a week until every tired old E36 dragging its sorry carcass round got retro fitted with them.
Old 13 September 2011, 12:52 PM
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Hate them. One of the worst rules to come out of Brussels.
Old 13 September 2011, 12:58 PM
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It's not about looking cool, but is an efffective way of providing daytime running lights. When these were first mooted, some years ago, the cost of pemanently powering conventional bulbs on every vehicle would far outweigh the benefit in reduced accidents. Now energy efficient LEDs have tipped the balance the other way, so, as above, they will be a legal requirement soon. I think they generally look OK and will prevent muppets from driving around at dusk with no illumination.
Old 13 September 2011, 01:08 PM
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my volvo's lights are permanently on dip. looks a bit odd when the sun is streaming, but overall i like being seen.

i have no idea why but when i descend on people a bit rapidly on the motorway, they tend to get out the way and quite often slow down too. not sure if it's lights, volvo badge or the large chequered paint job

actually, the people slowing down thing when i pass IS puzzling.
Old 13 September 2011, 05:29 PM
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[QUOTE=SwissTony;10233914]My missus loves fairy lights and has a set of light up antlers on her scoob at xmas

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Best thing I seen the other days was pair off pink eyelashes on the front headlamps off a little sports car, nothing descrete either these things were bloody massive !!

woman seemed happy enough parking up and getting out her car !!

could this be the next Dragons Den invention ??!!
Old 14 September 2011, 09:59 PM
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Some are too bright and detract from being able to see the indicators.

Same issue with LED brake lamps used in the same cluster as the indicators (Range Rovers and Enviro 300 and Enviro 400 buses for example...I can barely see them!

However after owning several silver cars, in dull grey Britain, some form of lighting is needed in the daytime bacause people just simply don't see me. But LEDs housed in the same cluster as the indicators is a big nono. Same as indicators in the headlamp cluster as it just makes them next to useless (and don't start me on amoebabrained bikers who fit miniture indicators in lieu of the originals...do they want to be knocked off?).

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Old 14 September 2011, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Some are too bright and detract from being able to see the indicators.

Same issue with LED brake lamps used in the same cluster as the indicators (Range Rovers and Enviro 300 and Enviro 400 buses for example...I can barely see them!
I have noticed this myself, its seems quite dangerous.

I don't honestly think that DRLs will make any difference to people seeing cars. If a person can't see my car when I am flashing my full beams at them and beeping the horn as they decide to try and take the front off my car without even bothering to indicate, what use is DRL's going to be?
Old 14 September 2011, 10:28 PM
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They do help in some case. But it really does depend on the colour of the car.

My Escort (blue) and Monaro (red) I never had an issue, nor our psychedelic green Astravan, then I jumped in my mum's silver Nissan and I was cut-up left right and centre, then I bought a silver Subaru and had the exact same problem, actually it was worse, as I would typically be driving faster in a car with fitted with worse brakes! (such is the nature of the classic Impreza's brakes ).

People just don't see silver cars. Or can't judge their speed.

So maybe DRLs should only be enabled on silver/grey cars?

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Old 15 September 2011, 10:05 PM
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I've thought about this for quite a while now.

They look absolutely **** and any one who has them would find it really sensible to drive off a cliff.

FFS what's gone wrong with the world
Old 15 September 2011, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
my volvo's lights are permanently on dip. looks a bit odd when the sun is streaming, but overall i like being seen.

i have no idea why but when i descend on people a bit rapidly on the motorway, they tend to get out the way and quite often slow down too. not sure if it's lights, volvo badge or the large chequered paint job

actually, the people slowing down thing when i pass IS puzzling.
maybe it's the blue flashing lights and the hi-vis coat Volvo's normally make me slow down - it's that "is it, isnt it" question - never quite sure until I see the driver
Old 16 September 2011, 01:53 AM
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They are a legal requirement for all new cars & vans built from ealrly this year trucks and buses from 2012 IIRC

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Old 16 September 2011, 07:45 AM
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Hate them, Like Jeremy clarkson says they remind me of Xmas on a council estate.
Old 16 September 2011, 08:11 AM
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surley having the lights on, no matter how bright use energy and therefore burn more fuel? More C02 to polute?
Old 16 September 2011, 09:04 AM
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I used to hate the fairy lights until I got my new car
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Originally Posted by Scooby Jo
maybe it's the blue flashing lights and the hi-vis coat Volvo's normally make me slow down - it's that "is it, isnt it" question - never quite sure until I see the driver
I'm always wary of 3 and 5 series grey and black beemers.
Old 16 September 2011, 10:34 AM
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DRL...daylight running lights.....surely the clue is in the title.....DAYLIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do you need to have lights on during the day?
Old 16 September 2011, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
DRL...daylight running lights.....surely the clue is in the title.....DAYLIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do you need to have lights on during the day?
because learner drivers are not taught to actually watch what is happening around them but rather how to pass a test.
Old 16 September 2011, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
because learner drivers are not taught to actually watch what is happening around them but rather how to pass a test.
I think all drivers should do a CBT as part of the car driving training.

I'm accident free for over 20 years and i think taking my motorbike test really helped me.

and i'm all for being seen. daytime or not.
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
I'm accident free for over 20 years
You had to go and say it.....
Old 16 September 2011, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy

Why do you need to have lights on during the day?
Because the EU (our masters) say so!!
Old 16 September 2011, 12:40 PM
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415 Views but only 59 votes, come on guys, get voting.
Old 16 September 2011, 12:54 PM
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On Audi's they dim on the side the indicator is flashing.

[quote=ALi-B;10236756]Some are too bright and detract from being able to see the indicators.
Old 16 September 2011, 01:43 PM
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From the other side of things, there are concerns for motorcyclists with the introduction of DLR.

Since it means motorcycles are no longer the only vehicles displaying headlights during the day, some are of the opinion that
they wont be so easily discernible against other road users.


Old 16 September 2011, 02:33 PM
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DRL's are new foglight menace!!


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